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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Yemike Abhilash Chandra <y-abhilashchandra@ti.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
	robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	nm@ti.com, vigneshr@ti.com, kristo@kernel.org, brgl@kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	afd@ti.com, u-kumar1@ti.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add TI TDA54 pin controller
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 18:08:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261027-backshift-speech-3791d024931c@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d505e63-9d99-42fd-9638-05043ad36e90@ti.com>

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 02:39:32PM +0530, Yemike Abhilash Chandra wrote:
> On 02/10/26 02:56, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 01, 2026 at 11:10:34PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > > > +      ti,isolation-bypass:
> > > > +        $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> > > > +        enum: [0, 1]
> > > > +        description: |
> > > > +          I/O isolation for this pad.
> > > > +          0 - isolation preserved
> > > > +          1 - isolation bypassed
> > > 
> > > What does this even mean electronically speaking? Explain in a description:
> > > statement.
> > > 
> > > ti,isolation-preserve;
> > > ti.isolation-bypass-enable;
> > 
> > Is this not just an either or, so there should only be one property
> > here.
> > 
> 
> It is an either/or, but with a single bool, leaving it out wouldn't
> clear a bypass set by an earlier boot stage. So I'd prefer the two
> bool properties Linus suggested, does that work for you?

Maybe this is a misguided belief, but I don't think that any node for
which pin configuration is being provided should be incomplete to the
point that it relies on earlier stages - or are you thinking about nodes
that provide only pinmuxing and having no way to differentiate between a
node that has only muxing (and should not modify configuration and a node
that is meant to do pinmuxing plus set the default isolation bypass
state?

> > > perhaps?
> > > 
> > > Some of the retention settings seem *very* generic, c.f. this
> > > from include/dt-bindings/pinctrl/nomadik.h that has been
> > > around forever:
> > > 
> > > #define SLPM_DISABLED           0
> > > #define SLPM_ENABLED            1
> > > #define SLPM_INPUT_NOPULL       0
> > > #define SLPM_INPUT_PULLUP       1
> > > #define SLPM_INPUT_PULLDOWN     2
> > > #define SLPM_DIR_INPUT          3
> > > #define SLPM_OUTPUT_LOW         0
> > > #define SLPM_OUTPUT_HIGH        1
> > > #define SLPM_DIR_OUTPUT         2
> > > #define SLPM_WAKEUP_DISABLE     0
> > > #define SLPM_WAKEUP_ENABLE      1
> > > 
> > > SLPM means "sleep mode", yeah pretty much retention...
> > > 
> > > I think the corresponding retention settings for things that are really
> > > quite generic should just be added to the generic pin config bindings.
> > 
> > Additionally, if any of the custom properties are gonna be kept as
> > numerical values, they're all missing defaults. In the case where you're
> > advocating for multiple boolean properties, one of them is gonna have to
> > be required as otherwise we're looking at indeterminate states based on
> > reset values or what a prior stage may or may not have done? The reset
> > values should probably be considered default, but the cleanest way to
> > make this work with separate booleans is have a
> > oneOf:
> >   - required:
> >      - a
> >   - required:
> >      - b
> >   - required:
> >      - c
> > 
> > and you've also got to deal with people potentially making mistakes and
> > adding multiple properties for the same feature or trying to overwrite a
> > $som.dtsi/$soc-common.dtsi config and not realising that they've got to
> > do a /delete-property/ on the other property for the feature.
> 
> In v2, I will switch most of them to boolean properties, with every
> state available as its own flag, so a DT can always set a known value
> and override whatever an earlier stage left. For each group I'd follow
> the same pattern as the generic bias-* properties: at most one flag from
> a group, which also catches the dtsi override case in dtbs_check. If
> none is given, the driver leaves those bits untouched, same as for
> bias-*.
> 
> Would that work for you, or would you still prefer one of them to be
> required?
> 
> For the numerical properties that remain, I'll add a default.

Sure.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-30  9:20 [PATCH 0/3] Add pin controller support for TI TDA54 SoC Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-09-30  9:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add TI TDA54 pin controller Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-10-01 21:10   ` Linus Walleij
2026-10-01 21:26     ` Conor Dooley
2026-10-27  9:09       ` Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-10-27 18:08         ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2026-10-27  8:49     ` Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-09-30  9:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] pinctrl: ti: Add TDA54 pin controller driver Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-10-01 20:52   ` Linus Walleij
2026-10-13  6:00     ` Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-10-11 23:11   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-10-13  6:09     ` Yemike Abhilash Chandra
2026-09-30  9:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: dts: ti: Add TDA54 pinctrl header Yemike Abhilash Chandra

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