From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev,
kernel-team@meta.com, stable@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/nmi: Ignore negative NMI handler durations
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 13:00:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261027120033.GM2668564@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261027-nmi_negative-v1-1-b436a005eb8a@debian.org>
On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 03:43:51AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> I am seeing NMI handlers in the Meta fleet reported as running for
> about 584 years. Over 30 days, 11 AMD and Intel machines logged 637
> such lines, for example:
>
> AMD EPYC 9D25 (family 0x1a, model 0x11, stepping 0x0):
> [ 1650.616627] INFO: NMI handler (nmi_cpu_backtrace_handler.llvm.9643156322683129580) took too long to run: 18446744073709.551 msecs
>
> Intel Xeon Platinum 8321HC (family 0x6, model 0x55, stepping 0xb):
> [360448.230129] INFO: NMI handler (perf_event_nmi_handler) took too long to run: 18446744071018.936 msecs
>
> Intel Xeon D-2191A (family 0x6, model 0x55, stepping 0x4):
> [81787.188959] INFO: NMI handler (ghes_notify_nmi) took too long to run: 18446744073709.545 msecs
All these are 'recent' machine and should have a stable TSC :-( I hate
computers.
> nmi_handle() times each handler with two sched_clock() reads. When the
> second read is lower than the first, the u64 subtraction wraps, and
> nmi_check_duration() treats the result as a duration. In the three
> examples, the clock went back by less than 1 us, by 2.7 s and by about
> 6 us.
>
> The wrapped value is also stored in action->max_duration. Every later
> real duration is smaller, so the handler is never reported again until
> the next boot.
>
> Whatever makes the clock read lower, a negative difference is not a
> duration, so return before it is stored or reported. A clock that steps
> forward is not covered, since that cannot be told from a real stall.
>
> A backwards clock is still worth knowing about, so print the size of
> the step once per boot. This uses pr_warn_once() rather than WARN, as a
> stack trace says nothing about the clock and panic_on_warn machines
> should not go down for it.
>
> Fixes: 2ab00456ea8a ("x86: Warn when NMI handlers take large amounts of time")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
> ---
> arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c b/arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c
> index aae7254774680..57a0dab1ec7a9 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c
> @@ -130,6 +130,14 @@ static void nmi_check_duration(struct nmiaction *action, u64 duration, struct pt
> {
> int remainder_ns, decimal_msecs;
>
> + /* sched_clock() went backwards? */
> + if ((s64)duration < 0) {
> + pr_warn_once("NMI handler (%ps): sched_clock() went backwards by %lld ns on CPU%d\n",
> + action->handler, -(s64)duration,
> + smp_processor_id());
> + return;
> + }
Fair enough I suppose. Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-27 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-27 10:43 Breno Leitao
2026-10-27 12:00 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-10-27 16:25 ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
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