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From: Joonhoe Kim <26rote@gmail.com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@kernel.org, kuba@kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org,
	christopher.lew@oss.qualcomm.com, deepak.singh@oss.qualcomm.com,
	pranav.phansalkar@oss.qualcomm.com, andersson@kernel.org,
	effeffe99@gmail.com, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: qrtr: announce local services again once our HELLO is sent
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2026 19:51:57 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261029105157.2553-1-26rote@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <at9mFUv1flg-6aMB@debian>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 08:11:56PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > +	if (cb->type == QRTR_TYPE_HELLO) {
> > +		/* Pairs with smp_load_acquire() in qrtr_hello_work() */
> > +		smp_store_release(&node->hello_rcvd, true);
>
> smp_store_{release/acquire}() accessors are only needed if there is an ordering
> requirement. But I don't see that exist with this 'hello_rcvd' bool flag.
> Wouldn't {READ/WRITE}_ONCE() suffice?

The flag is ordered against node->nid. qrtr_endpoint_post() assigns the
node id with qrtr_node_assign() before it sets hello_rcvd, and the
replay reads node->nid after it sees the flag. For an endpoint
registered with QRTR_EP_NID_AUTO, the id is only assigned when the first
packet from the remote arrives. With READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() the replay
could see the flag and still read QRTR_EP_NID_AUTO, which has the same
value as QRTR_NODE_BCAST, and the name service would then send its
announcements to every node.

The flag cannot be set under ep_lock instead, as qrtr_endpoint_post()
can be called in atomic context.

> > +		to.sq_node = READ_ONCE(node->nid);
>
> There is no READ_ONCE() in the earlier read. So please justify why you added it.

node->nid is read again here because the earlier read can come before
the remote's first packet and still be QRTR_EP_NID_AUTO. That is fine
for our HELLO, as qrtr_node_enqueue() takes the destination of a control
packet from node->nid itself, but the replay needs the assigned id.

The READ_ONCE() is there because qrtr_node_assign() writes node->nid
with WRITE_ONCE() and the other lockless readers, qrtr_node_enqueue()
and qrtr_bcast_enqueue(), use READ_ONCE(). After the acquire the id no
longer changes, so a plain read would also be correct. I kept it in v3
to match the other readers, but I can drop it if you prefer.

> > +		qrtr_local_enqueue(NULL, skb, QRTR_TYPE_HELLO, &to, &from);
>
> What happens to the return value?

It was ignored, and a failed replay was lost for good, as the Sashiko
review of v2 also points out. In v3 the replay is retried 100 ms later
if the allocation or qrtr_local_enqueue() fails, without sending our
HELLO again, and it is queued under ep_lock only while the endpoint is
still registered:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20261029105142.2503-1-26rote@gmail.com/

Thanks,
Joonhoe Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-29 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-22 16:31 Joonhoe Kim
2026-10-26 14:41 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-10-29 10:51   ` Joonhoe Kim [this message]
2026-10-26 17:39 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-29 10:52   ` Joonhoe Kim
2026-10-26 23:12 ` Filippo Falezza

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