From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Daehyeon Ko <4ncienth@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/autogroup: Fix task_group UAF during thread creation
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 16:49:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261030154940.GW2668564@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261030034540.2074077-1-4ncienth@gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 30, 2026 at 12:45:34PM +0900, Daehyeon Ko wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 12:57:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > I'm not sure this works; afaict this will result in a NULL deref
> > instead.
>
> Thanks for taking a look.
>
> The NULL previous cfs_rq should be handled by the existing set_task_rq()
> contract. __sched_fork() initializes p->se.cfs_rq to NULL, and the normal
> sched_cgroup_fork() path reaches set_task_rq() through __set_task_cpu().
> set_task_rq_fair() returns when prev is NULL, before
> cfs_rq_last_update_time(prev), and set_task_rq() then installs the new
> cfs_rq, parent, and depth.
>
> > Can't we make ksys_setsid() more complicated instead? Have it create the
> > autogroup in advance, move under the tasklist_lock and destroy on
> > failure or something?
>
> I don't think moving the autogroup move under tasklist_lock alone closes
> the window, because sched_cgroup_fork() runs before copy_process() takes
> tasklist_lock:
>
> clone(CLONE_THREAD) setsid()
> ------------------- --------
> sched_cgroup_fork() -> old tg
> create new autogroup
> lock(tasklist_lock)
> move listed threads; child is absent
> unlock(tasklist_lock)
> drop old autogroup reference
> lock(tasklist_lock)
> publish child with old tg
>
> The ordering trace hit this pre-publication sequence seven times. The
> final revalidation is intended to cover precisely this interval.
>
> Am I missing another ordering which excludes this interleaving?
No, I think you're right. Also, its a mess :/
We have far too many sched hooks here:
free_signal_struct:
sched_autogroup_exit();
__put_task_struct:
sched_core_free();
copy_mm:
sched_cache_fork();
copy_signal:
sched_autogroup_fork();
copy_process:
ret = sched_fork()
scx_pre_fork()
LOCK scx_fork_rwsem
cgroup_can_fork()
LOCK cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem
ret = sched_cgroup_fork();
sched_class::task_fork()
return scx_fork() // requires scx_fork_rwsem;
// also requires p->sched_task_group to be correct;
// scx ignores auto-group
LOCK tasklist_lock
sched_core_fork() // requires tasklist_lock
LOCK siglock
+ sched_autogroup_fork_finish();
UNLOCK siglock
UNLOCK tasklist_lock
cgroup_post_fork()
UNLOCK cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem
sched_post_fork()
scx_post_fork()
UNLOCK scx_fork_rwsem
Now, AUTOGROUP depends on CGROUP, so we can make autogroup_move_group()
also use cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem, such that the autogroup and cgroup
logic stays the same?
I'd hate for this to get more complicated than it already is.
I mean, yes we can move sched_core_fork() into the siglock region, but
duplicating most of sched_cgroup_fork() in there just to fix an
autogroup thingy seems weird and inconsistent.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-30 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-23 1:36 Daehyeon Ko
2026-10-26 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-30 3:45 ` Daehyeon Ko
2026-10-30 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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