From: Raul E Rangel <rrangel@chromium.org>
To: James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@gmail.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
"Heikki Krogerus" <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
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"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
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"Shan-Chun Hung" <schung@nuvoton.com>,
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"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] serial: 8250: retain DMA resources when termination fails
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 11:36:35 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261030173635.2186490-2-rrangel@chromium.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADvTj4rRtKyq_7yhpfwGQrbOA=k_jxQymTpZSvdVBB0A-xR-Rw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 6:35 PM James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is the current behavior. Returning from shutdown allows serial
> core to free the TX buffer and removal to release the callback
> context. The retry loop prevents those releases, but a permanent
> termination failure blocks teardown indefinitely
...
> Retaining the buffers and channels does not preserve the complete
> callback context.
>
> The callbacks carry a uart_8250_port pointer. For DW, the DMA state is
> embedded in devm-managed private data, which can be freed after
> unbind. The registered 8250 port slot can also be reused. Retaining
> the DMA channel does not prevent either operation.
...
> Clearing up->dma does not stop hardware accesses. After unsuccessful
> termination, the channel may still access the UART FIFO, so reopening
> with PIO can introduce concurrent FIFO access.
>
> A hardware-specific stop/reset sequence could establish quiescence,
> but its implementation and effects on other channels depend on the
> controller. If the channel cannot be stopped, quarantine also needs
> to preserve callback-context lifetimes and prevent unsafe port reuse.
...
> The current callbacks fetch p->dma before acquiring the port lock.
> A callback can therefore retain the old non-NULL pointer across the
> assignment of NULL. Checking that cached pointer does not protect
> its backing allocation from being freed.
>
> When termination returns an error, dmaengine_terminate_sync() also
> returns without calling dmaengine_synchronize(), so callback draining
> has not been established.
Those are all good points. We added port reopen and a `NoConcurrentFifoAccess`
invariant to `Serial8250TxDmaV8.tla`
(`Serial8250TxDmaV8_QuarantinePioReopenHazard.cfg`), and TLC immediately
confirmed your point on FIFO contention: clearing `up->dma = NULL` and
falling back to PIO when reopening after a failed `dmaengine_terminate_sync()`
violates `NoConcurrentFifoAccess` in 7 states because the un-terminated DMA
descriptor can still access the hardware UART FIFO concurrently with PIO.
We can satisfy all three constraints while still preventing normal `close()`,
`hangup()`, and system `suspend()` from hanging forever in
`TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE` under `port->mutex` across the three lifecycle edges:
1. **On `close()` / `hangup()` / `uart_suspend_port()` (`serial8250_release_dma()` & `uart_free_xmit_buf()`)**:
- Bound the retry loop in `serial8250_terminate_dma()` (with a short
backoff rather than an unbounded `msleep(100)`, guarding
`if (dma->rxchan)` / `if (dma->txchan)`) and release whichever
channel(s) terminated cleanly (`rx_ret == 0` or `tx_ret == 0`).
- If `rx_ret != 0` or `tx_ret != 0`, **keep `up->dma` intact** (do not set
`up->dma = NULL`, including in `8250_omap.c:omap_8250_shutdown()`), keep
`dma->shutting_down = true`, and retain the failed channel and its
buffer (`dma->rxchan` / `dma->rx_buf` when `rx_ret != 0`; `dma->txchan`
and mapped `dma->tx_addr` when `tx_ret != 0`).
- When `tx_ret != 0`, explicitly call `uart_xmit_block(&p->port)` under
`p->port.lock` (`state->xmit_blocked = true`, since `xmit_blocked` is
otherwise only set when `uart_flush_buffer()` ran prior to `close()`),
and in `serial_core.c:uart_free_xmit_buf()`, return early under
`uport->lock` if `state->xmit_blocked` is set (without clearing
`port->xmit_buf = NULL`, resetting `port->xmit_fifo`, or calling
`kfree(xmit_buf)`).
- Because `up->dma` is not cleared and `struct uart_8250_dma` /
`struct uart_8250_port` remain allocated on the bound device during
`close()`, `hangup()`, and `suspend()`, any callback that was not
drained by `dmaengine_terminate_sync()` safely loads a valid `p->dma`,
observes `dma->shutting_down == true` under `port->lock`, and returns
without UAF—while `close()`, `hangup()`, and system `suspend()` return
cleanly without hanging in `D` state or triggering `hung_task_panic`.
2. **On subsequent `open()` (`serial8250_do_startup()` & `omap_8250_startup()`)**:
- At the very start of `serial8250_do_startup()` (`8250_port.c:2356`) and
`omap_8250_startup()` (`8250_omap.c:724`)—after acquiring runtime PM,
and **before** clearing `up->dma->shutting_down = false`, touching
`UART_FCR` / `UART_RX` / `UART_TX`, or setting up IRQs/timers—if
`up->dma && (up->dma->rxchan || up->dma->txchan)` is still non-NULL from
a prior failed termination, retry `serial8250_release_dma(up)` first:
- If `up->dma->rxchan || up->dma->txchan` is **still** non-NULL
(termination still failed), immediately return `-EIO` and **fail
`startup()`** (do *not* clear `up->dma = NULL` and do *not* fall back
to PIO while the wedged DMA channel may still touch the UART FIFO).
- If termination succeeded on retry (`rxchan == NULL && txchan == NULL`,
which also unblocked `state->xmit_blocked`), reset `xmit_fifo` and
proceed with normal startup and `serial8250_request_dma(up)`.
3. **On driver unbind (`serial8250_unregister_port()` / `serial_core_remove_one_port()`)**:
- Driver removal is the *only* point where `devm`-allocated
`struct uart_8250_dma` and the `serial8250_ports[]` slot are about to be
freed/reused (note also that `serial_core_remove_one_port()` at
`serial_core.c:3336` only calls `uart_shutdown()` when
`tty_port_initialized(port)` is true, so if the port was already closed
with a quarantined channel, unbind must still drain/release it).
- Restricting blocking termination wait to driver unbind (when a channel is
still active/quarantined) prevents `close()`, `hangup()`, and system
`suspend()` from ever hanging the kernel in `msleep(100)`.
We verified this quarantine + `-EIO` reopen contract in
`Serial8250TxDmaV8_TerminateRetryHang_Fixed.cfg` (`AllowReopen = TRUE`,
`ReopenFallbackToPio = FALSE`), which passes all safety and liveness
properties (`NoUsersAtFree`, `BoundedTerminateRetries`,
`NoConcurrentFifoAccess`, `QuarantineImpliesXmitBlocked`, `ShutdownProgress`)
with 0 errors:
https://github.com/ismell/linux-8250-dma-tla
Thanks,
Raul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-30 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-29 7:36 [PATCH v8 0/6] serial: 8250: serialize DMA cancellation with buffer reuse James Hilliard
2026-10-29 7:36 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] serial: 8250_omap: separate locked TX DMA completion processing James Hilliard
2026-10-29 7:36 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] serial: serialize asynchronous write wakeups with the port lock James Hilliard
2026-10-29 14:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-29 17:13 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-29 7:36 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] serial: core: allow drivers to reserve flushed transmit storage James Hilliard
2026-10-29 7:37 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] serial: 8250: drain canceled TX DMA before reusing its buffer James Hilliard
2026-10-29 14:19 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-29 17:15 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-30 9:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-29 7:37 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] serial: 8250: retire canceled RX DMA before reusing the receive buffer James Hilliard
2026-10-29 14:22 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-29 17:17 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-29 22:27 ` Raul E Rangel
2026-10-30 0:32 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-30 17:36 ` Raul E Rangel
2026-10-29 7:37 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] serial: 8250: retain DMA resources when termination fails James Hilliard
2026-10-29 14:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-29 17:19 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-29 22:27 ` Raul E Rangel
2026-10-30 0:35 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-30 17:36 ` Raul E Rangel [this message]
2026-10-30 9:40 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-30 17:09 ` James Hilliard
2026-10-30 17:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-30 18:08 ` James Hilliard
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