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Subject: [RFC v2 0/1] mm: add source selector to memory.reclaim
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 15:04:39 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261102070440.16262-1-lizhe.67@bytedance.com> (raw)
memory.reclaim is a useful proactive reclaim interface for memcgs, but
tiered memory makes "reclaim N bytes from this memcg" underspecified for
userspace controllers that manage memory placement across tiers. The
kernel reclaim path may demote some folios and evict others. Without a
way to declare where reclaim pressure should be applied, userspace can
only reclaim from the memcg as a whole and observe one aggregate progress
value.
There is prior history here [1]. The old nodes= proposal tried to let
memory.reclaim scan selected NUMA nodes, but the discussion left several
ABI questions unresolved:
- nodes= did not clearly say whether the mask was a source selector, a
reclaim domain, or a demotion-target constraint.
- The implementation did not apply the mask to the whole reclaim path,
so demotion could allocate outside the mask. If userspace interpreted
the mask as a domain or target constraint, the ABI did not provide
that.
- Selecting top-tier nodes could become an implicit way to request
demotion without uncharge. That would make userspace depend on a
particular reclaim policy and could make future policy changes hard.
- The separate completion-accounting question remained: demotion can
count as reclaim progress even though memory.current is not reduced.
This series takes a narrower approach. It adds a typed source= key which
declares only the resident source to which the existing memory.reclaim
path should apply pressure. It is not a demotion target selector, not a
demotion-only goal, not an eviction-only goal, and not a change to the
existing completion accounting. Leaving source unspecified preserves the
existing memory.reclaim behavior.
In that sense, this series extends node-scoped reclaim pressure to the
memcg memory.reclaim interface. The existing node memory_reclaim
interface can apply pressure to a node, but it is not scoped to a
particular memcg. This series lets userspace apply the same kind of
source-scoped pressure to a cgroup's resident memory on selected nodes,
while still using the normal memcg reclaim path.
The typed source= form also follows a direction that has recently been
discussed for memory.reclaim. In the zswap proactive writeback series,
the interface was changed from a one-off zswap_writeback_only key to
source=zswap so that other reclaim sources could be selected in the
future [2][3]. This series uses the same extensible key shape, but
defines a different source class: resident NUMA nodes. source=zswap
bypasses ordinary reclaim and performs zswap writeback; source=nodes:
<nodelist> only constrains where the normal memcg reclaim path applies
pressure.
The main benefit of this series is to give userspace a steering knob for
per-node memory placement control. A tiering controller can still build
per-tier policy on top of it by translating a tier to its node list, for
example from /sys/devices/virtual/memory_tiering/memory_tierN/nodelist.
It can then apply reclaim pressure to the nodes that should be relieved.
For example, it can apply pressure to top-tier nodes so that, under the
existing tiering policy, cold folios can usually be demoted to lower
tiers. Another controller may first reclaim from lower-tier nodes so that
later top-tier reclaim has room for demotion. A controller can also
reclaim from terminal-tier nodes when it needs actual charge reduction.
The existing memory.reclaim interface cannot express this. It applies
pressure to the memcg as a whole, so on a multi-tier system the kernel
may make progress in a tier different from the one userspace is trying
to control. That makes a userspace feedback loop for tier ratios
ineffective: the controller can observe that a specific node or tier is
over its desired resident footprint, but it cannot direct the next
reclaim request to the corresponding source nodes.
This version only adds source=nodes:<nodelist>, which is the basic
source selector. More convenience selectors can be considered later, but
the tier use case is already expressible by resolving a tier's current
nodelist in userspace and passing that nodelist to
source=nodes:<nodelist>. Starting with the node-based interface keeps the
ABI smaller while preserving the source= namespace for future selectors.
The remaining issues from the old discussion are intentionally left out
of this series. If userspace needs to control demotion targets, that
should be a separate target/demotion-policy ABI rather than folded into
source=. If userspace needs a strict "bytes actually uncharged"
completion mode, that should be discussed as a separate accounting or
goal extension because it would change the observable meaning of
memory.reclaim progress. This series only adds source selection for the
existing reclaim policy.
Testing:
I ran a simple userspace feedback controller on a CXL test machine. The
machine had nodes 0-2 as the DRAM tier and node 3 as the CXL tier. The
basic matrix used node 0 as the DRAM source and node 3 as the CXL
source for the target memcg, with fio and stress-ng as the load
generators. The controller:
- read anon/file bytes from memory.numa_stat by node;
- aggregated them into DRAM and CXL resident bytes;
- targeted a 1:1 DRAM:CXL resident ratio for the target memcg;
- selected the side above 55%;
- wrote memory.reclaim with source=nodes:<selected nodes>; and
- slept for the configured control period before the next sample.
The controller loop was approximately:
while running:
stat = read_memory_numa_stat()
dram = resident_bytes(stat, dram_nodes)
cxl = resident_bytes(stat, cxl_nodes)
total = dram + cxl
if dram > total * 0.55:
source_nodes = dram_nodes
excess = dram - total / 2
else if cxl > total * 0.55:
source_nodes = cxl_nodes
excess = cxl - total / 2
else:
sleep(period)
continue
bytes = clamp(excess * gain, min_step, max_step)
write(memory.reclaim,
"$bytes source=nodes:<source_nodes>")
sleep(period)
The requested reclaim size was proportional to the excess bytes, with
per-workload min/max bounds. I tested 1G, 5G, 10G, 20G and 50G
workloads with 1s, 2s, 5s and 10s control periods. A run was considered
within target when max(abs(dram_ratio - 0.5), abs(cxl_ratio - 0.5)) was
not greater than 5 percentage points.
Basic feedback-controller matrix, final deviation from the 1:1 target:
The 1s, 2s, 5s and 10s columns are controller periods.
The file-cache-CXL-high case used fio under numactl to create about 25%
DRAM and 75% CXL page cache. It reached within 5% by at most the
eighth control cycle, and all 20 runs ended within 5%.
size 1s 2s 5s 10s
1G 3.96% 3.96% 4.45% 3.96%
5G 2.65% 2.75% 2.65% 2.65%
10G 2.65% 2.68% 2.65% 2.69%
20G 2.65% 2.66% 2.66% 2.64%
50G 4.31% 4.31% 4.31% 4.31%
The anon-DRAM-high case used stress-ng under numactl to create
anonymous memory on DRAM and used swappiness=max so that the normal
reclaim path could demote or reclaim anonymous memory. It reached
within 5% by at most the seventh control cycle, and all 20 runs ended
within 5%.
size 1s 2s 5s 10s
1G 0.15% 0.02% 0.16% 0.02%
5G 3.16% 3.13% 3.14% 3.13%
10G 3.13% 3.13% 3.15% 3.12%
20G 3.12% 3.13% 3.12% 3.12%
50G 1.88% 1.88% 1.88% 1.88%
For comparison, I also ran the same controller and workloads without
the source=nodes selector. The controller still chose the side above the
target and computed the same request size, but wrote plain
memory.reclaim without a source constraint.
case final <=5% reached <=5% worst deviation
file-cache CXL high 1/20 1/20 50.00%
anon DRAM high 20/20 20/20 5.00%
This shows why the source selector matters for placement control. In
the file-cache-CXL-high case, plain memory.reclaim could not reliably
control the target ratio without source=nodes. In the anon-DRAM-high
case, plain memory.reclaim worked well. This is likely because, in this
setup, the whole-memcg reclaim walk reached DRAM nodes before CXL nodes,
so it already applied pressure to the over-target DRAM side first for
this workload.
I also ran a disturbed case with external reclaim and demotion activity.
The target memcg used stress-ng under numactl to create about 25% DRAM
and 75% CXL anonymous memory. NUMA demotion and zswap were enabled, and
watermark_scale_factor was raised to 3000 so background reclaim became
visible in a short run. A ballast cgroup kept DRAM free memory low, and
a separate CXL-heavy cgroup kept reclaim activity present on the CXL
tier. The result below was measured on the target memcg.
During the matrix, pgdemote_kswapd increased in 16/20 runs. The
CXL-free-down/DRAM-free-up/pgdemote pattern appeared in 13/20 runs.
Even with that external activity, the target memcg controller still
drove its own DRAM:CXL resident ratio toward 1:1.
Disturbed case, final deviation from the 1:1 target. The 1s, 2s, 5s and
10s columns are controller periods:
size 1s 2s 5s 10s
1G 1.18% 1.11% 1.11% 1.42%
5G 2.14% 2.06% 2.14% 2.14%
10G 2.13% 2.10% 2.15% 2.11%
20G 2.15% 2.23% 2.15% 2.43%
50G 4.87% 4.87% 4.89% 4.87%
All 20 disturbed runs reached within 5% by the third control cycle and
ended within 5%. This does not make memory.reclaim a one-shot footprint
guarantee, but it shows that source=nodes can act as a useful
feedback-loop actuator.
References:
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y5bsmpCyeryu3Zz1@dhcp22.suse.cz/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260629112032.20423-1-jiahao.kernel@gmail.com/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260629112032.20423-5-jiahao.kernel@gmail.com/
Li Zhe (1):
mm: add source selector to memory.reclaim
Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst | 9 +++++
mm/bpf_memcontrol.c | 3 +-
mm/internal.h | 3 +-
mm/memcontrol-v1.c | 6 ++-
mm/memcontrol.c | 11 ++++--
mm/vmscan.c | 49 +++++++++++++++++++++++--
6 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
---
v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20261019141401.11927-1-lizhe.67@bytedance.com/
Changes since v1:
- Reworded the cover letter and documentation to describe the interface
as applying reclaim pressure to a selected resident source.
- Added the lower-tier use case where userspace reclaims from a lower
tier first so that later top-tier reclaim has room for demotion.
- Dropped patch 2, the tier convenience selector, for now. Tier-aware
userspace can resolve a tier to a nodelist and use source=nodes.
- Added references to the zswap proactive writeback discussion, which
also uses the typed source= form to keep memory.reclaim extensible.
- Added CXL feedback-controller test results using fio and stress-ng
load generators, including a no-source baseline.
--
2.20.1
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