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From: Francesco Nigro <nigro.fra@gmail.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REPORT] sched: ITMT + DELAY_DEQUEUE: woken task waits ~1 ms behind another task on the preferred CPU while allowed CPUs are idle
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 2026 09:12:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261105081245.81773-1-nigro.fra@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5af4860d-096a-4e9d-a3b3-0b8277924146@amd.com>

On Thu, 2026-11-05 at 09:41 +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Francesco,

Hi Prateek,

thanks a lot for looking into this, and for the patch.

This is a corporate machine, so I can't promise I will be able to boot
a patched kernel on it, but I will try.

> Since you say ITMT disabled actually solves this issue, I suspect there is a
> race between the idle balancer moving the delayed task to a preferred CPU vs
> a wakeup that also lands on the same CPU.

perf sched shows a race like that, but the task moved is the running
one, by active balance. One example (perf sched timehist, trimmed; ms):

    .654334  [6]  worker 482   awakened: migration/7
    .654337  [6]  worker 482   blocks
    .654338  [7]  worker 481   preempted while running
    .654341  [7]  migration/7  migrated: worker 481 cpu 7 => 6
    .654341  [2]  waker        awakened: worker 482
    .655572  [6]  worker 482   ran 1.006 after 0.224 sch delay

Does your change cover the active balance path too?

> So at this point, I would have expected B to have already been
> moved by a newidle / idle balance.

Not here: in 270 of 286 waits of 0.5 ms or more, neither worker left
CPU 6, and CPUs 4, 5 and 7 were idle for at least 98 % of the wait.

Trace summary and excerpt:
https://github.com/franz1981/itmt-delay-dequeue-repro/tree/827b6b2

Thanks,
Franz

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-03 15:46 Francesco Nigro
2026-11-03 17:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2026-11-03 23:33   ` Francesco Nigro
2026-11-04  3:13     ` Mike Galbraith
2026-11-04 22:06       ` Francesco Nigro
2026-11-05  4:11 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-05  8:12   ` Francesco Nigro [this message]
2026-11-05  8:34     ` K Prateek Nayak

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