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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Vineet Gupta <vgupta@kernel.org>
Cc: Simon Schuster <schuster.simon@siemens-energy.com>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] lib: extract 32bit mul/div helpers from nios2 into GENERIC_LIB
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 10:57:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261105105736.728782ab@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bba7f6da-82ee-46cc-bd8f-b0e3e027f5e2@kernel.org>

On Tue, 3 Nov 2026 20:23:23 -0800
Vineet Gupta <vgupta@kernel.org> wrote:

> Nios it seems was removed from gcc?

Yep, Intel deprecated it not long before demerging Altera.
Loosely on the basis that they have a RISCV soft cpu for the fpga.
gcc followed (even though the code to support it isn't that big
- I can probably find a copy, you can't download it any more),
as has busybox.

This annoyed the company I worked for (and probably a lot of telco).
RISCV isn't a replacement in any sense, it is missing a lot of
features (like custom instructions) and doesn't have the same level
of customisation.
I wouldn't run Linux on one (you might get 100MHz if you are lucky
and it is definitely in-order one instruction per clock), but it is
useful for 'control pane' logic that would be too complex and large
in straight VHDL/Verilog.
Typically only a few KB of code running in a tight loop.

I've a clean-room copy of the integer part of the cpu - written
in a few weeks (and I'm not really a hardware engineer).

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-03 13:30 [PATCH v2 0/3] lib: Add software mul/div helpers and use them from nios2 Simon Schuster
2026-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] lib: extract 32bit mul/div helpers from nios2 into GENERIC_LIB Simon Schuster
2026-11-04  4:23   ` Vineet Gupta
2026-11-05 10:57     ` David Laight [this message]
2026-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] nios2: export __divsi3_table Simon Schuster
2026-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] nios2: Drop usage of libgcc in favour of GENERIC_LIB_* Simon Schuster
2026-11-03 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] lib: Add software mul/div helpers and use them from nios2 Arnd Bergmann

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