From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
will@kernel.org, boqun@kernel.org, longman@redhat.com,
bigeasy@linutronix.de, clrkwllms@kernel.org,
dvhart@infradead.org, dave@stgolabs.net, andrealmeid@igalia.com,
shuah@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] locking/rtmutex: Stop spinning on the owner when the waiter is woken
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2026 11:43:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261107104329.GA2668564@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261107002927.3cbad7ff@fedora>
On Sat, Nov 07, 2026 at 12:29:27AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2026 18:59:27 -0500
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>
> > The top waiter of an rt_mutex spins while the owner runs,
> > rtmutex_spin_on_owner(), and does not stop when it is woken: its timeout
> > and a signal find it running, set it TASK_RUNNING, and the spin goes on
> > until the owner leaves its CPU or the waiter's own CPU has to
> > reschedule. A PI futex owner is a user task that may run as long as it
> > likes. On v7.4-rc1, in 8-CPU VMs, behind an owner spinning in userspace,
> > a 1ms pthread_mutex_timedlock() returns ETIMEDOUT 126ms to 631ms late on
> > average, 1.4s at most, a SIGUSR1 is handled up to 1.9s late, and a
> > waiter killed with SIGKILL is reaped 0.5s late on average. With
> > PREEMPT_RT the wound of a ww_mutex is missed the same way: two contexts
> > in an ABBA on two CPUs at SCHED_FIFO spin on each other, and the older
> > one gets its second lock after 96ms on average, 0.95s at most.
> >
>
> The above is very verbose. Are you starting to use AI? ;-)
He definitely is. I can't read the above, its word soup. Part of using
AI is making sure the Changelog is actually readable. This is not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-07 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-06 23:59 [PATCH 0/5] locking/rtmutex: priority inheritance fixes and tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-06 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/5] locking/rtmutex: Stop spinning on the owner when the waiter is woken Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-07 5:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-11-07 10:43 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-11-07 12:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-06 23:59 ` [PATCH 2/5] locking/rtmutex: Initialize the ww_mutex context of a waiter Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-06 23:59 ` [PATCH 3/5] locking/rtmutex: Clone a waiter's sort keys as it enters pi_waiters Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-07 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-06 23:59 ` [PATCH 4/5] selftests/futex: Test priority inheritance on PI futexes Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-06 23:59 ` [PATCH 5/5] locking/ww_mutex/test: Time an ABBA with both owners running Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-07 0:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-07 0:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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