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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ziqianlu@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: Make __update_rq_clock() skip updates on UPDATED
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 11:28:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261111102817.GN1779021@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ac37e055b66a46f72edd235f1e93f5f@kernel.org>

On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 03:11:28PM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Peter.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 07, 2026 at 12:59:17PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >  static void __update_rq_clock(struct rq *rq)
> >  {
> > +	bool update;
> > +
> >  	lockdep_assert_rq_held(rq);
> >  
> > +	update = !(rq->clock_update_flags & RQCF_NOP_MASK);
> >  	rq->clock_update_flags |= RQCF_UPDATED;
> >  
> > -	if (!(rq->clock_update_flags & RQCF_ACT_SKIP)) {
> > +	if (update) {
> 
> RQCF_UPDATED is cleared only by rq_pin_lock() and
> double_rq_clock_clear_update(), so a path which takes the rq lock with
> raw_spin_rq_lock() inherits it from the previous holder and its
> update_rq_clock() is now silently skipped.

Let me look at that specific case.

> Previously, you said to clear on unlock. Why not do that? That'd be less
> confusing overall.

Yes, that's what I tried, but it doesn't work for core-sched. What
happens is that SMT0 and SMT1 interleave and things go to hell, patch 6
has that picture.

That is, we can still clear on unlock too, but clear on unlock alone
isn't sufficient :/

Patch 6 even has the clear on unlock, but commented out.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-11 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-07 11:59 [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sched/core: Fix pick_next_task() self recursion Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11  0:30   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sched/core: Introduce rq_drop_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08  9:25   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 10:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] sched/core: Decompose update_rq_clock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: Make __update_rq_clock() skip updates on UPDATED Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11  1:11   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:28     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sched/core: Abstract/fix rq_clock_start_loop_update() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08 22:26   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11  9:10     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-11  9:51       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] sched/core: New rq_{pin,drop,repin,unpin}_lock() semantics Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 10:41   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] sched/core: Simplify/fix time updates Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] sched/core: Allow newidle for core-sched Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] sched/rt: Add early exit on balance path Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] sched/fair: Reflow pick_task_fair() / newidle Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:02   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] sched/fair: Push sched_balance_newidle() unlock down Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Remove sched_class::balance() Peter Zijlstra

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