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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux trace kernel" <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xdp: Remove unused events xdp_redirect_map and xdp_redirect_map_err
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 14:05:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20415ab5-5003-4725-bf1b-560f197465c4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4af27621-6d81-4316-b57a-b546c8a7ad08@kernel.org>



On 12/06/2025 12.54, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/06/2025 12.30, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> writes:
>>
>>> From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>>>
>>> Each TRACE_EVENT() defined can take up around 5K of text and meta data
>>> regardless if they are used or not. New code is being developed that 
>>> will
>>> warn when a tracepoint is defined but not used.
>>>
>>> The trace events xdp_redirect_map and xdp_redirect_map_err are 
>>> defined but
>>> not used, but there's also a comment that states these are kept 
>>> around for
>>> backward compatibility. Which is interesting because since they are not
>>> used, any old BPF program that expects them to exist will get incorrect
>>> data (no data) when they use them. It's worse than not working, it's
>>> silently failing.
>>>
>>> Remove them as they will soon cause warnings, or if they really need to
>>> stick around, then code needs to be added to use them.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Steven Rostedt (Google) <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>>
>> I guess that makes sense; I have no objections to getting rid of them.
>>
>> Reviewed-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@kernel.org>
> 
> Make sense.
> 
> 
> Toke we have to check how XDP-tools handle when these tracepoints 
> disappears.

To Toke, notice that userspace tools expect this tracepoint to be
available will fail as below (for kernel release v6.16):

  $ sudo ./xdp-bench redirect mlx5p1 veth41
   libbpf: prog 'tp_xdp_redirect_map_err': failed to find kernel BTF 
type ID of 'xdp_redirect_map_err': -3
   libbpf: prog 'tp_xdp_redirect_map_err': failed to prepare load 
attributes: -3
   libbpf: prog 'tp_xdp_redirect_map_err': failed to load: -3
   libbpf: failed to load object 'xdp_redirect_basic'
  Failed to attach XDP program: No such process

IMHO this is a userspace problem, that needs to be more flexible and
adapt to this change.

This was changed in kernel v5.6 (Jan 2020) commit 1d233886dd90 ("xdp:
Use bulking for non-map XDP_REDIRECT and consolidate code paths").
So, I'm thinking that xdp-tools could just remove monitoring for these
tracepoints?

--Jesper

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11 19:56 Steven Rostedt
2025-06-12 10:30 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-12 10:54   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-06-16 12:05     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2025-06-16 12:42       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-13  2:50 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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