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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>, luizcap@redhat.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	david@kernel.org, ziy@nvidia.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	tsbogend@alpha.franken.de, maddy@linux.ibm.com,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com,
	gor@linux.ibm.com, x86@kernel.org, tglx@kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, ira.weiny@intel.com,
	hughd@google.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, djbw@kernel.org,
	vishal.l.verma@intel.com, dave.jiang@intel.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, yintirui@huawei.com, ljs@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] mm: thp: always enable mTHP support
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 15:23:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2132b0a3-1085-47cb-95ca-3aaa7f8ed44b@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260603064718.81699-1-lance.yang@linux.dev>



On 6/3/26 2:47 PM, Lance Yang wrote:
> Hi Luiz,
> 
> SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE still assumes PMD order in a few places.
> 
> Is that expected?
> 
> shmem_init() only sets the default inherit mask when PMD leaves are
> available.
> 
> 	if (!shmem_orders_configured && pgtable_has_pmd_leaves())
> 		huge_shmem_orders_inherit = BIT(HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> 
> But shmem_parse_huge() rejects "force" unless the mask is exactly PMD
> order.
> 
> 	if (huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE &&
> 	    huge_shmem_orders_inherit != BIT(HPAGE_PMD_ORDER))
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 
> Even if "force" is selected, shmem_huge_global_enabled() still return
> only PMD order.
> 
> 	if (shmem_huge_force || shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
> 		return maybe_pmd_order;
> 
> and shmem_allowable_huge_orders() mask it out.
> 
> 	if (!pgtable_has_pmd_leaves())
> 		disabled_orders = BIT(PMD_ORDER);
> 
> 	if (!vma || !vma_is_anon_shmem(vma))
> 		return global_orders & ~disabled_orders;
> 
> For anon shmem, it can also return 0 for same reason.
> 
> 	if (shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
> 		return READ_ONCE(huge_shmem_orders_inherit) & ~disabled_orders;
> 
> Should SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE use the available mTHP orders below PMD when
> pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() is false?

No. That's exactly the strategy we agreed on after lots of discussion:
1. The options 'force' and 'deny' are dropped for mTHP interfaces, which 
are rather testing artifacts from the old ages.

2. If top level value is 'force', then only PMD-sized hugepages have 
enabled="inherit", otherwise configuration will be failed and vice versa.

You can check commit 4b98995530b7 ("mm: shmem: add multi-size THP sysfs 
interface for anonymous shmem") for more information.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-03  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-29 14:55 [PATCH v5 00/14] " Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] docs: tmpfs: remove implementation detail reference Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-02 10:16   ` Dev Jain
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] mm: shmem: shmem_getattr(): set blksize to highest supported THP order Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-02 15:13   ` Zi Yan
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] mm: introduce pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] drivers: dax: use pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] drivers: nvdimm: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] mm: debug_vm_pgtable: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: shmem: allow THP support determination at folio allocation time Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-01 12:09   ` Baolin Wang
2026-06-01 12:20     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-02  2:55       ` Baolin Wang
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] s390: move has_transparent_hugepage() out of THP guard Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] powerpc: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mips: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] x86: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] treewide: introduce arch_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] mm: replace thp_disabled_by_hw() with pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-05-29 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] mm: thp: always enable mTHP support Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-01 12:02   ` Baolin Wang
2026-06-02  3:02     ` Baolin Wang
2026-06-03  6:47   ` Lance Yang
2026-06-03  7:23     ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-06-03  7:40       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-03  8:12   ` Lance Yang
2026-06-03 17:40     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-04  2:04       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-11 18:00 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] " Luiz Capitulino
2026-06-11 18:21   ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-11 18:27     ` Luiz Capitulino

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