From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966239AbbD2Q1I (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:27:08 -0400 Received: from mailrelay.lanline.com ([216.187.10.16]:52042 "EHLO mailrelay.lanline.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030326AbbD2Q1G (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:27:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21825.1619.257083.696748@quad.stoffel.home> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:26:59 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" To: Harald Hoyer Cc: Richard Weinberger , "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 In-Reply-To: <5540DEEB.2060405@redhat.com> References: <20150423163616.GA10874@kroah.com> <20150423171640.GA11227@kroah.com> <553A4A2F.5090406@samsung.com> <20150428171840.GB11351@thunk.org> <21824.5086.446831.189915@quad.stoffel.home> <5540D2F9.2010704@redhat.com> <5540DEEB.2060405@redhat.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>>>> "Harald" == Harald Hoyer writes: Harald> On 29.04.2015 15:33, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> It depends how you define "beginning". To me an initramfs is a *very* minimal >> tool to prepare the rootfs and nothing more (no udev, no systemd, no >> "mini distro"). >> If the initramfs fails to do its job it can print to the console like >> the kernel does if it fails >> at a very early stage. >> Harald> Your solution might work for your small personal needs, but Harald> not for our customers. Arguing that your needs outweight mine because you have customers ain't gonna fly... I don't care about your customers and why should I? I'm not getting any money from them. Nor do I make any money from Linux kernel though as an IT person, I support Linux all day long. Do my requirements get listened to as well? If your customers wnat this feature, you're more than welcome to fork the kernel and support it yourself. Oh wait... Redhat does that already. So what's the problem? Just put it into RHEL (which I use I admit, along with Debian/Mint) and be done with it.