From: Luo Gengkun <luogengkun2@huawei.com>
To: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>, <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
<bsegall@google.com>, <mgorman@suse.de>, <vschneid@redhat.com>,
<kprateek.nayak@amd.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<juri.lelli@redhat.com>, <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
<tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
<peterz@infradead.org>, "chen.yu@linux.dev" <chen.yu@linux.dev>,
Jianyong Wu <jianyong.wu@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:03:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <228dff06-1cf1-413e-a1db-0aefda384479@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9fae7258-5f33-4ddc-8d21-599db3c0d091@intel.com>
On 2026/8/11 15:46, Chen, Yu C wrote:
> Hi Gengkun,
> On 8/11/2026 10:27 AM, Luo Gengkun wrote:
>
> I did a further study on this and have two minor questions:
>
>>> @@ -1711,6 +1722,9 @@ void account_mm_sched(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, s64 delta_exec)
>>> pcpu_sched->runtime += delta_exec;
>>> rq->cpu_runtime += delta_exec;
>>> epoch = rq->cpu_epoch;
>>> + pcpu_sched->epoch_last_visit = epoch;
>>> + if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu_of(rq), mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus))
>>> + cpumask_set_cpu(cpu_of(rq), mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus);
>
> visited_cpus bits are only cleared inside fraction_mm_sched(), which is
> reachable in task_cache_work() - but that loop is skipped when invalid_llc_nr()
> returns true for any single-threaded process. As a result, single-threaded
> processes keep setting bits in account_mm_sched() without using them.
> Maybe a gate would be useful:
From a technical perspective, adding a gate here is unnecessary.
The overhead is virtually nonexistent, especially since it resides on a path
already burdened by heavier operations like __update_mm_sched(). If we were
to care about performance and optimization, focusing on __update_mm_sched()
would be far more meaningful than adding checks here.
What do you think?
>
> if (get_nr_threads(p) > 1 &&
> !cpumask_test_cpu(cpu_of(rq), mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus))
> cpumask_set_cpu(cpu_of(rq), mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus);
>
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> @@ -1866,7 +1835,18 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
>>> scoped_guard (cpus_read_lock) {
>>> guard(rcu)();
>>> - get_scan_cpumasks(cpus, p);
>
> I'm thinking of if this could bring cross-node bouncing. Is it doable
> to honor the result from NUMA preference:
> get_scan_cpumasks(cpus, p);
> cpumask_and(cpus, cpus, mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus);
I looked closely at get_scan_cpumasks(). The CPU mask it returns is the
union of node(p->numa_preferred_nid), node(mm->sc_stat.cpu), and node(task_cpu(p)).
Its purpose was only to mitigate sc_stat.cpu bouncing — it did not fully
eliminate it. Relying on visited_cpus alone follows the actual footprint
of where the threads really ran, making it even less prone to bouncing.
Additionally, even if the numa node derived from visited_cpus disagrees with a
given thread's numa_preferred_nid, get_pref_llc() still prevents that
thread from being migrated to that node, so it remains safe either way.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
thanks,
Gengkun
>
> thanks,
> Chenyu
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-12 9:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-31 2:44 [PATCH v9 0/2] Cache aware scheduling: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work Luo Gengkun
2026-07-31 2:44 ` [PATCH v9 1/2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus Luo Gengkun
2026-08-11 2:27 ` Luo Gengkun
2026-08-11 7:46 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-08-12 9:03 ` Luo Gengkun [this message]
2026-08-18 14:41 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-07-31 2:44 ` [PATCH v9 2/2] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add trace event and sched feature to track scan cost Luo Gengkun
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