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From: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
To: Zeng Heng <zengheng4@huawei.com>,
	james.morse@arm.com, Dave.Martin@arm.com,
	reinette.chatre@intel.com, fenghuay@nvidia.com
Cc: dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, bp@alien8.de, tony.luck@intel.com,
	babu.moger@amd.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] arm_mpam: Introduce Narrow-PARTID feature
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:14:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22cae175-f7ef-4458-8ab6-77b3990616ca@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260317132141.1272506-1-zengheng4@huawei.com>

Hi Zeng,

On 3/17/26 13:21, Zeng Heng wrote:
> This series applies on top of the mpam_resctrl_glue_v5_debugfs branch of:
> https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-bh.git
> 
> Background
> ==========
> 
> On x86, the resctrl allows creating up to num_rmids monitoring groups
> under parent control group. However, ARM64 MPAM is currently limited by
> the PMG (Performance Monitoring Group) count, which is typically much
> smaller than the theoretical RMID limit. This creates a significant
> scalability gap: users expecting fine-grained per-process or per-thread
> monitoring quickly exhaust the PMG space, even when plenty of reqPARTIDs
> remain available.
> 
> The Narrow-PARTID feature, defined in the ARM MPAM architecture,
> addresses this by associating reqPARTIDs with intPARTIDs through a
> programmable many-to-one mapping. This allows the kernel to present more
> logical monitoring contexts.

Thanks for this series and all your help with MPAM driver. Using PARTID
narrowing to allow more resctrl monitoring groups is a good idea.

> 
> Design Overview
> ===============
> 
> The implementation extends the RMID encoding to carry reqPARTID
> information:
> 
>   RMID = reqPARTID * NUM_PMG + PMG
> 
> In this patchset, a monitoring group is uniquely identified by the
> combination of reqPARTID and PMG. The closid is represented by intPARTID,
> which is exactly the original PARTID.
> 
> For systems with homogeneous MSCs (all supporting Narrow-PARTID), the
> driver exposes the full reqPARTID range directly. For heterogeneous
> systems where some MSCs lack Narrow-PARTID support, the driver utilizes
> PARTIDs beyond the intPARTID range as reqPARTIDs to expand monitoring
> capacity. The sole exception is when MBA MSCs lack Narrow-PARTID support,
> their percentage-based control mechanism prevents the use of PARTIDs as
> reqPARTIDs.

We also need to consider how this will interact with cache capacity controls
(CMAX/CMIN). Although, they are not exposed by the driver yet.

> 
> Capacity Improvements
> =====================
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The maximum        |  Sub-monitoring groups            | System-wide
> number of          |  under a control group            | monitoring groups
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Without            |                                   |
> reqPARTID          |  PMG                              | intPARTID * PMG
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> reqPARTID          |                                   |
> static allocation  | (reqPARTID // intPARTID) * PMG    | reqPARTID * PMG
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> reqPARTID          |                                   |
> dynamic allocation | (reqPARTID − intPARTID + 1) * PMG | reqPARTID * PMG
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Does the quest for more monitoring groups stop here or do you see a usecase
for limiting the number of control groups to get more monitoring groups?

Thanks

Ben


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-20 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-17 13:21 Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] fs/resctrl: Fix MPAM Partid parsing errors by preserving CDP state during umount Zeng Heng
2026-03-20 17:07   ` Ben Horgan
2026-03-21  4:11     ` Zeng Heng
2026-03-21  6:39       ` Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] arm_mpam: Add intPARTID and reqPARTID support for narrow PARTID feature Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] arm_mpam: Disable Narrow-PARTID when MBA lacks support Zeng Heng
2026-04-10  1:07   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-04-11  6:50     ` Zeng Heng
2026-04-13  9:12       ` Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] arm_mpam: Refactor rmid to reqPARTID/PMG mapping Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] arm_mpam: Propagate control group config to sub-monitoring groups Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] fs/resctrl: Add rmid_entry state helpers Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] arm_mpam: Implement dynamic reqPARTID allocation for monitoring groups Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] fs/resctrl: Wire up rmid expansion and reclaim functions Zeng Heng
2026-03-17 13:21 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] arm64/mpam: Add mpam_sync_config() for dynamic rmid expansion Zeng Heng
2026-03-20 16:14 ` Ben Horgan [this message]
2026-03-21  7:18   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] arm_mpam: Introduce Narrow-PARTID feature Zeng Heng
2026-04-10  0:13 ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-04-11  6:32   ` Zeng Heng
2026-04-16  6:11     ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-04-20  8:19       ` Zeng Heng

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