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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 11:15:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22d90b7f-fdc9-40e3-8afb-c7bf313f60c2@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgBMG7CcwvW15ULJOsVEq5QRSj+ccgaUJU+XGxJKeXEVw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/5/25 09:04, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> That said, I do want to bring up another issue: maybe it's time to
> just retire the LOCK_PREFIX thing entirely?
> 
> It harkens back to Ye Olde Days when UP was the norm, and we didn't
> want to pay the cost of lock prefixes when the kernel was built for
> SMP but was run on an UP machine.
> 
> And honestly, none of that makes sense any more. You can't buy a UP
> machine any more, and the only UP case would be some silly minimal
> virtual environment, and if people really care about that minimal
> case, they should just compile the kernel without SMP support.
> Becxause UP has gone from being the default to being irrelevant. At
> least for x86-64.
> 

I think the key there is that "they should just compile the kernel 
without SMP support" (which may very well make sense for some oddball 
embedded uses) *does* still mean that remaining cases of locks 
can/should be elided so demacroizing it is still not an option.

But yes... would get rid of a lot of crap machinery which is basically 
dead code, and that would be a Very Good Thing[TM].

	-hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-08 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-28 12:35 Uros Bizjak
2025-02-28 13:13 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-02-28 16:48 ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-28 22:31   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-02-28 22:58     ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-01  9:05       ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-01 12:38         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05  8:54           ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 17:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-05 19:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-05 19:47               ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 22:18                 ` David Laight
2025-03-05 20:14               ` David Laight
2025-03-06 10:45                 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06 13:07                   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06 22:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-08  7:22                       ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-08 19:15               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2025-03-05 19:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 20:13               ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 20:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06  9:38                   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 20:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:52                 ` Dirk Gouders
2025-03-06 10:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 20:36             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 21:26               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06  9:01                 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06  9:43                   ` kernel: Current status of CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y (was: Re: [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns) Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:37                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-03-06 20:37                     ` David Laight
2025-03-03 13:12       ` [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns David Laight
2025-03-02 20:56   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-03 12:23     ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-08 19:08   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-09  7:50     ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-09  9:46       ` David Laight
2025-03-09  9:57         ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06  9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:26   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06 10:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 13:56   ` Uros Bizjak

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