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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC V2 1/6] cpufreq: Replace "max_transition_latency" with "dynamic_switching"
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 00:06:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2309380.IRBF8BkiFH@aspire.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0hagTXFmV94abxeEL5=dPn0FQtW7SogyK6iJd6ika+GUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday, July 14, 2017 01:11:58 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Dominik Brodowski
> <linux@dominikbrodowski.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 06:19:53PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > There is no limitation in the ondemand or conservative governors which
> >> > disallow the transition_latency to be greater than 10 ms.
> >> >
> >> > The max_transition_latency field is rather used to disallow automatic
> >> > dynamic frequency switching for platforms which didn't wanted these
> >> > governors to run.
> >> >
> >> > Replace max_transition_latency with a boolean (dynamic_switching) and
> >> > check for transition_latency == CPUFREQ_ETERNAL along with that. This
> >> > makes it pretty straight forward to read/understand now.
> >>
> >> Well, using CPUFREQ_ETERNAL for that on the driver side is still not
> >> particularly straightforward IMO, so maybe add a
> >> "no_dynamic_switching" to the driver structure and set it to "true"
> >> for the one driver in question?
> >
> > IIRC it's not just one driver which sets the latency to CPUFREQ_ETERNAL, and
> > where dynamic switching might be harmful or at least lead to undefined
> > behavior.
> 
> OK
> 
> Still, though, using CPUFREQ_ETERNAL to indicate the "no dynamic
> switching" condition is somewhat convoluted, so why don't we have a
> flag to *explicitly* say that instead?
> 
> Do you know which drivers they are or is it just all drivers that use
> CPUFREQ_ETERNAL?

Well, after the $subject patch it effectively is all drivers that use
CPUFREQ_ETERNAL anyway, so it looks like we actually can do a complete
switch-over.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-14 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-13  5:40 [RFC V2 0/6] cpufreq: transition-latency cleanups Viresh Kumar
2017-07-13  5:40 ` [RFC V2 1/6] cpufreq: Replace "max_transition_latency" with "dynamic_switching" Viresh Kumar
2017-07-13 16:19   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-14  7:01     ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-07-14 11:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-14 22:06         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2017-07-15  5:08           ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-07-15 12:26             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 11:58               ` Viresh Kumar
2017-07-17 12:18                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-13  5:40 ` [RFC V2 2/6] cpufreq: schedutil: Set dynamic_switching to true Viresh Kumar
2017-07-13  5:40 ` [RFC V2 3/6] cpufreq: governor: Drop min_sampling_rate Viresh Kumar
2017-07-13  5:40 ` [RFC V2 4/6] cpufreq: Use transition_delay_us for legacy governors as well Viresh Kumar
2017-07-13 16:31   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-13  5:40 ` [RFC V2 5/6] cpufreq: Cap the default transition delay value to 10 ms Viresh Kumar
2017-07-13  5:40 ` [RFC V2 6/6] cpufreq: arm_big_little: Make ->get_transition_latency() mandatory Viresh Kumar

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