From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
mingo@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
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patrick.bellasi@arm.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com,
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joel@joelfernandes.org, smuckle@google.com,
adharmap@codeaurora.org, skannan@codeaurora.org,
pkondeti@codeaurora.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
edubezval@gmail.com, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
currojerez@riseup.net, javi.merino@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:40:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2400837.WDdV4EAXz7@aspire.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180910103802.l4zhewxgskchflsa@queper01-lin>
On Monday, September 10, 2018 12:38:05 PM CEST Quentin Perret wrote:
> On Monday 10 Sep 2018 at 11:44:33 (+0200), Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > A kerneldoc comment would be useful here IMO.
>
> OK
>
> > > +struct em_cap_state {
> > > + unsigned long frequency; /* Kilo-hertz */
> >
> > I wonder if the "frequency" field here could be changed into something a bit
> > more abstract like "level" or similar?
> >
> > The reason why is because in some cases we may end up with somewhat artificial
> > values of "frequency" like when the intel_pstate driver is in use (it uses
> > abstract "p-state" values internally and only produces "frequency" numbers for
> > the cpufreq core and the way they are derived from the "p-states" is not always
> > entirely clean).
> >
> > The "level" could just be frequency on systems where cpufreq drivers operate on
> > frequencies directly or something else on the other systems.
>
> I see your point (and TBH we start to have same sort of problems on
> Arm) but at this stage I would rather keep this field coherent with
> what CPUFreq manages, that is, KHz. The only reason for that is because
> the thermal subsystem (IPA) will look at this table to apply a max freq
> capping on CPUFreq policies, so things need to be aligned.
>
> I agree that even if the unit of this field wasn't specified we could
> still build a system that works just fine. However if things are too
> loosely specified, problems are allowed to happen, so they will.
Fair enough.
> Now, if the CPUFreq core is modified to manipulate abstract performance
> levels one day, I'll be happy to change the EM framework the same way :-)
I don't think this is going to happen any time soon, though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-10 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-20 9:44 [PATCH v6 00/14] Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 01/14] sched: Relocate arch_scale_cpu_capacity Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 02/14] sched/cpufreq: Factor out utilization to frequency mapping Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 9:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Quentin Perret
2018-08-29 10:04 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-29 13:28 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-31 9:04 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-09-11 9:34 ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-11 12:32 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-11 13:31 ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-10 9:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 10:38 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 10:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 04/14] PM / EM: Expose the Energy Model in sysfs Quentin Perret
2018-09-06 6:56 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-09-06 14:09 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-07 0:14 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 05/14] sched/topology: Reference the Energy Model of CPUs when available Quentin Perret
2018-08-29 16:22 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-29 16:56 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 10:00 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-30 10:47 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 12:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 06/14] sched/topology: Lowest CPU asymmetry sched_domain level pointer Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 07/14] sched/topology: Introduce sched_energy_present static key Quentin Perret
2018-08-29 16:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-29 17:20 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 9:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-30 9:57 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 10:18 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-09-06 6:06 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-09-06 9:29 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-06 23:49 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-09-07 8:24 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 08/14] sched/fair: Clean-up update_sg_lb_stats parameters Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 09/14] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 10/14] sched/cpufreq: Refactor the utilization aggregation method Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 9:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 10:07 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 10:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 11/14] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 12/14] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 13/14] sched/topology: Make Energy Aware Scheduling depend on schedutil Quentin Perret
2018-09-04 10:59 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-06 9:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-06 14:38 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-07 8:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-07 8:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-07 9:02 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-07 15:29 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-09 20:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 8:24 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 8:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 9:43 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 14/14] OPTIONAL: cpufreq: dt: Register an Energy Model Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 9:12 ` [PATCH v6 00/14] Energy Aware Scheduling Rafael J. Wysocki
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