From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281FC43143 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C4620878 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=firemail.cc header.i=@firemail.cc header.b="0MCsaJbf" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org A9C4620878 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=firemail.cc Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726849AbeJBMog (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Oct 2018 08:44:36 -0400 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:45950 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726305AbeJBMof (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Oct 2018 08:44:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=firemail.cc; s=mail; t=1538460181; bh=+zKFz1IHmEi3kOni9XY+JImwYk7a0+4bn98wwcS0OjQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=0MCsaJbfx2+UaPG6gGtu4nSpKgh3OOZDiHydL6wUztaoHCni5xltnzLyPsWDuG7Ym h2DEe1/QB5AYpNq6/0WHx4n1gbrr3nHoaVAxSu17wSaX1xE7qngjnthqq02PdZK6IB VMA/EfCyHLgJrC3eudGENEQyjgmMuJY6rvFtf7LpUbQPJnVFzJU1lxCxoG+rTDm7BD mgE6N/zcVbAyx+MeD4nPSYsgI0tCN9TNed7glUWne0V9GOjb4lH8W7m2zJ6nLQOq7D wStuIFz+8HZ4tZ5Co7kCCfCiJO7C2hriOYVS5PXNyn4NKZD9zfb3/UtQmN5d00rD7z rYQzrsdFte5dg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 06:03:01 +0000 From: clarityabovecompulsion@firemail.cc To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: martin.espinoza@gmail.com, scott.ferguson.debian.user@gmail.com, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-ctte@lists.debian.org, debian-vote@lists.debian.org, debian-project@lists.debian.org, pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org, yaro@marupa.net, cbannister@slingshot.co.nz, andreimpopescu@gmail.com, ghaverla@materialisations.com, debian-mirrors@lists.debian.org, debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: The GPLv2 is not a contract. It is supported by no consideration. Message-ID: <24036503356668916a0ea41961456711@firemail.cc> X-Sender: clarityabovecompulsion@firemail.cc User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) on Monday October > 01, 2018 @10:21AM (#57403506) Homepage Journal > >What consideration was given? > The right to redistribute was given in exchange for use of the license > for one's own code. Something for something. What was your question > again? Incorrect. The permission to redistribute was simply given, gratis, by the grantor. He asked for nothing in return, and, infact received nothing, not even a promise of compliance. At a later date any of countless licensees might decide they wish make derivative works based upon the copyright-owner's property. By law this is barred. However the copyright holder here has magnanimously granted that the licensee is, contrary to the default rule, permitted to create and publish derivative works provided that they use the same license as the original work. Here the copyright holder suffers a detriment. He is payed nothing for this forbearance (no consideration). The licensee does not suffer a detriment: he had no right to make nor publish a derivative work to begin with. The extending to him, of permission, is a pure gratuity. He payed nothing for the change from "You may not create nor distribute derivative works" to "You may create and distribute derivative works under the same license as the original work".