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From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav@gnutls.org>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
	Jason Cooper <cryptography@lakedaemon.net>,
	John Denker <jsd@av8n.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/7] /dev/random - a new approach
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:32:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24059874.5WizEqNrfz@tauon.atsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJU7zaJFCty9CQZwzY3_N2Rx91mh-FhJd8Us+akHpTzCc5CjZw@mail.gmail.com>

Am Dienstag, 21. Juni 2016, 09:12:07 schrieb Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos:

Hi Nikos,

> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de> 
wrote:
> >> Personally, I don't really use /dev/random, nor would I recommend it
> >> for most application programmers.  At this point, getrandom(2) really
> >> is the preferred interface unless you have some very specialized
> >> needs.
> > 
> > I fully agree. But there are use cases for /dev/random, notably as a seed
> > source for other DRNG.
> 
> Is that really the case? I believe all DRNG's use /dev/urandom anyway
> for seeding since they cannot afford indeterminate blocking. It would
> be a gain for everyone if /dev/random was the same as /dev/urandom in
> Linux.

For standard approaches, this is true. But there are regulations, notably in 
the German realm, /dev/random shall be used, at least partially (see AIS 
20/31).

Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-21  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-19 15:58 Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 15:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] crypto: DRBG - externalize DRBG functions for LRNG Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 15:59 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] random: conditionally compile code depending on LRNG Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] crypto: Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 16:58   ` Andi Kleen
2016-06-19 18:31     ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] crypto: LRNG - enable compile Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 16:01 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 16:01 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] crypto: isolate the chacha20_block function Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 16:04 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] crypto: LRNG - add ChaCha20 support Stephan Mueller
2016-06-19 19:36 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] /dev/random - a new approach Pavel Machek
2016-06-19 20:47   ` Sandy Harris
2016-06-20  5:51   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-20  8:27     ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-20 15:28     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-20 15:43       ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-20 18:44         ` George Spelvin
2016-06-20 19:00           ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-21  5:12             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-21  5:17               ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-21  7:12         ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2016-06-21  7:32           ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2016-06-21 16:03             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-21 16:28               ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-21 18:22                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-21 18:46                   ` Stephan Mueller

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