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From: Ridong Chen <ridong.chen@linux.dev>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ridong Chen <chenridong@xiaomi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/vmscan: fix swappiness=max and clean up per-node proactive reclaim
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 16:33:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24b9f213-96e8-4eda-a20f-8746d7c399b7@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4xPw24afGLZH6Qh5rxOts37SCpmBVeB3gGntk1QQuSCow@mail.gmail.com>



On 7/24/2026 7:12 PM, Barry Song wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 10:43 AM Ridong Chen <ridong.chen@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/24/2026 8:18 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 12:57:14 +0800 Ridong <ridong.chen@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fixes and one cleanup.
>>>>
>>>> Patch 1 fixes "swappiness=max": the anon-only test in get_scan_count()
>>>> sat after the "cannot reclaim anon" check, so when no anon was
>>>> reclaimable the request fell back to SCAN_FILE and evicted page cache
>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> Patch 2 fixes reclaim_store() collapsing every error into -EAGAIN, so
>>>> callers can no longer tell an invalid argument from a busy interface;
>>>> propagate the real error code, matching the memcg path.
>>>>
>>>> Patch 3 drops the now-unused gfp_mask parameter from __node_reclaim().
>>>>
>>>> Patch 4 fixes the same "swappiness=max" issue for MGLRU.
>>>
>>> Thanks.  AI review might have found several pre-existing issues which
>>> might interest the maintainers.  Also a suggestion against your [4/4]:
>>>
>>>        https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260723045718.2052070-1-ridong.chen@linux.dev
>>
>> Hi all, sashiko review:
>>
>>     This is a pre-existing issue, but I noticed that per-node proactive reclaim
>>     fails to reclaim memory if the node's unmapped file or slab pages are below
>>     minimum thresholds, completely ignoring anonymous memory.
>>     In mm/vmscan.c:__node_reclaim():
>>          if (node_pagecache_reclaimable(pgdat) > pgdat->min_unmapped_pages ||
>>              node_page_state_pages(pgdat, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B) >
>> pgdat->min_slab_pages) {
>>     Does this condition incorrectly block proactive reclaim of anonymous memory
>>     by applying legacy zone-reclaim thresholds?
>>     It seems to bypass shrink_node() entirely if file/slab pages are low, even
>>     when sc->proactive is set, which could falsely return -EAGAIN to userspace
>>     for anon-heavy workloads.
>>
>> Should we add:
>>
>> if (sc->proactive ||
>>       node_pagecache_reclaimable(pgdat) > pgdat->min_unmapped_pages ||
>>       node_page_state_pages(pgdat, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B) > pgdat->min_slab_pages) {
> 

Hi Barry, sorry for the late reply.

> Nop.
> I assume reclaiming file cache and slab becomes problematic when their
> amounts are already very limited, so we should still honor these two
> checks.
> 
> Maybe we could relax them only when swappiness == 201
> (SWAPPINESS_ANON_ONLY)?
> 
> BTW, for global proactive reclaim, when setting swappiness to 201, does
> it prevent slab shrinking? If not, it seems problematic when
> node_page_state_pages(pgdat, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B) <
> pgdat->min_slab_pages.
> 

in __node_reclaim, we will shrink the node when 
node_pagecache_reclaimable(pgdat) > pgdat->min_unmapped_pages, even if 
node_page_state_pages(pgdat, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B) <= pgdat->min_slab_pages. 
This means slab shrinking can still occur even when below the limit (since 
shrink_slab is called unconditionally after shrink_lruvec). This is not an issue 
only for global proactive reclaim.


> Your recent patchset prevents all file reclamation when swappiness is
> set to 201, so we only need to check whether there could be a slab issue
> before allowing shrink_node() to continue in this case.
> 

So can we add just like?

if ((sc->proactive && node_page_state_pages(pgdat, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B) > 
pgdat->min_slab_pages) ||
	node_pagecache_reclaimable(pgdat) > pgdat->min_unmapped_pages ||
	node_page_state_pages(pgdat, NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B) > pgdat->min_slab_pages) {

-- 
Best regards
Ridong


      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-28  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-23  4:57 Ridong
2026-07-23  4:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/vmscan: fix anon-only reclaim evicting file pages when swappiness=max Ridong
2026-07-23  4:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: vmscan: propagate real error code from per-node proactive reclaim Ridong
2026-07-23  4:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: vmscan: drop unused gfp_mask parameter from __node_reclaim() Ridong
2026-07-23  4:57 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm/mglru: fix anon-only reclaim evicting file pages when swappiness=max Ridong
2026-07-23  8:57   ` Barry Song
2026-07-24  2:20     ` Ridong Chen
2026-07-24  0:18 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/vmscan: fix swappiness=max and clean up per-node proactive reclaim Andrew Morton
2026-07-24  2:27   ` Ridong Chen
2026-07-24  2:43   ` Ridong Chen
2026-07-24 11:12     ` Barry Song
2026-07-28  8:33       ` Ridong Chen [this message]

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