From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: dean gaudet <dean@arctic.org>
Cc: David Newall <david@davidnewall.com>, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: permit link(2) to work across --bind mounts ?
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:43:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25388.1198986232@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:40:47 PST." <alpine.DEB.0.999999.0712291239360.5207@twinlark.arctic.org>
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:40:47 PST, dean gaudet said:
> > See, this is where you show that you don't understand the system. I'll
> > explain it, just once. /var/home contains home directories. /var/log and
> > /var/home are on the same filesystem. So /var/log/* can be linked to
> > /var/home/malicious, and that's just one of your basic misunderstandings.
>
> yes you are on crack.
>
> i told you i understand this exactly. it's right there in the message
> sent.
So... You understand that if /var/home and /var/log are on one file system,
you can hard-link, and you set your system up knowing that, and then you're
*surprised* that:
> the main worry i have is some user maliciously hardlinks everything
> under /var/log somewhere else and slowly fills up the file system with
> old rotated logs.
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this.." "Well, don't do that then".
I think the first time I saw the recommendation "Put /home on its own
filesystem and don't give users directly writable directories on /var (except
via set-uid helpers) so they can't play hardlink games" back in 1983 or so.
I know that when SunOS 3.1 came out, that was already well-understood basic
sysadmining. Sometimes, there's actual good reasons behind 20-year-old
voodoo.. ;)
You sure you don't want to redesign your filesystem layout so you don't
have to worry about your malicious users hardlinking stuff? Might be a lot
easier than trying to get the kernel to do what you want in this case....
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-30 3:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-18 22:46 Mark Lord
2007-12-18 22:57 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-18 23:00 ` Al Viro
2007-12-18 23:14 ` Al Viro
2007-12-19 3:54 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-19 3:59 ` David Newall
2007-12-19 16:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-19 18:38 ` David Newall
2007-12-29 2:53 ` dean gaudet
2007-12-29 3:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-29 6:02 ` dean gaudet
2007-12-29 6:48 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-29 8:29 ` David Newall
2007-12-29 16:18 ` dean gaudet
2007-12-29 20:35 ` David Newall
2007-12-29 20:40 ` dean gaudet
2007-12-30 3:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2007-12-30 3:55 ` dean gaudet
2007-12-27 3:43 ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
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[not found] ` <9BTJN-2Sv-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <9BTTr-35L-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-12-19 13:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-19 14:23 ` Al Viro
2007-12-19 15:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2007-12-19 16:44 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-20 20:55 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-20 1:33 linux
2007-12-20 2:06 ` Mark Lord
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