From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>, <kas@kernel.org>,
<djbw@kernel.org>, <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
<peter.fang@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
<baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
<xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/15] Enable TDX Module Extensions and DICE-based TDX Quoting
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 22:23:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2542e761-57ed-4170-8ce9-1de3fc685dea@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260522034128.3144354-1-yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>
Hello,
On 5/21/2026 8:41 PM, Xu Yilun wrote:
> The first 4 patches will eventually need an ack by an x86 maintainer, so
> please review with that in mind.
>
I am looking at this from an x86 reviewer perspective with limited prior
TDX knowledge.
> == Overview ==
>
> TDX Module introduces the "TDX Module Extensions" to support long
> running / hard-irq preemptible flows inside. This makes TDX Module
> capable of handling complex tasks through "Extension SEAMCALLs".
Can we explain a bit more about why these extensions are needed or what
would happen if the kernel didn't enable them? I ran the series through
an LLM for my curiosity. I think something on the below lines might be a
good addition for the cover letter itself.
(Please verify)
The TDX module's normal SEAMCALLs are designed to be short,
non-preemptible operations. However, some newer features (like
DICE-based TDX Quoting) require complex, potentially long-running
computations that can't complete within the tight constraints of a
single non-preemptible SEAMCALL.
The "TDX Module Extensions" solve this by introducing "Extension
SEAMCALLs" — a new class of SEAMCALLs that are:
* Long-running — they may take significant time to complete (e.g.,
cryptographic operations for attestation/quoting).
* Hard-IRQ preemptible — they can be interrupted by hardware interrupts
and later resumed, so they don't monopolize the CPU or cause
unacceptable interrupt latency.
Without this mechanism, complex operations like generating DICE
attestation quotes would either block interrupts for too long
(unacceptable for a host kernel) or wouldn't be possible inside the TDX
module at all. The Extensions give the TDX module a way to handle these
heavyweight tasks while remaining cooperative with the host's
interrupt/scheduling model.
>
> TDX Module allows some add-on features to use the Extension.
s/Module/module throughout the series.
The existing kernel code predominantly uses the lower case TDX "module".
> The first feature to use Extensions is DICE-based TDX Quoting [1].
> DICE is an industry-standard, certificate-backed attestation
> framework that layers evidence through a chain of certificates.
>
> This series adds infrastructure to enable the Extensions and then
> implement DICE-based TDX Quoting.
>
> The Extensions consumes relatively large amount of memory (~50MB). So it
> is designed to be off by default. It must be enabled after basic TDX
> Module initialization and when add-on features require it. To enable
> the Extensions, host first adds extra memory to TDX Module via a
> SEAMCALL (TDH.EXT.MEM.ADD), then uses another SEAMCALL (TDH.EXT.INIT) to
> initialize Extensions, and then some add-on features, e.g. DICE, could
> use Extension SEAMCALLs for work. Note that host can never get the added
> memory back.
>
> Theoretically, the Extensions doesn't need to be enabled right after
> basic TDX initialization. It could be enabled right before the first
> Extension SEAMCALL is issued. That would save or postpone memory usage.
> But it isn't worth the complexity, the needs for the Extensions are vast
> but the savings are little for a typical TDX capable system (about
> 0.001% of memory). So the Linux decision is to just enable it along with
> the basic TDX.
>
I think enabling it by default on TDX platforms (with the module
extension) might make sense. But the explanation here is slightly
confusing.
You said earlier that "The Extensions consumes relatively large amount
of memory (~50MB)" so they must be off by default. Later you say that
"..the saving are little .."
Are you saying that the dynamic enabling of the extensions is not worth
it or the dynamic allocation of the memory needed to support them?
In addition, could you briefly describe the complexity we are trading off?
> This series has 2 distinct parts:
>
> Patches 1-4: TDX Module Extensions enabling
> Patches 5-15: DICE-based TDX Quoting, primarily Peter's work.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-27 5:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-22 3:41 Xu Yilun
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/virt/tdx: Read global metadata for TDX Module Extensions Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 6:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-25 6:54 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-27 15:35 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-05-28 4:25 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 21:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-29 15:34 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 6:05 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-05-27 7:11 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 17:17 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-05-28 3:48 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 21:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-29 16:59 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-09 13:06 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-10 3:20 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-12 22:20 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-15 15:24 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-15 16:05 ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/virt/tdx: Add extra memory to TDX Module for Extensions Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 8:56 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-27 3:47 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 6:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-27 7:32 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 8:18 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-06-07 4:38 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-06-08 9:41 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-09 13:38 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-10 5:13 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-10 5:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-10 7:44 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-12 23:49 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-15 15:55 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/virt/tdx: Make TDX Module initialize Extensions Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 8:58 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-06-05 8:46 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-09 15:14 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-10 8:09 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/virt/tdx: Enable the Extensions right after basic TDX Module init Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 6:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-05-27 4:02 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 8:05 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-28 21:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-29 17:19 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-07 4:38 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-06-08 10:12 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-14 7:00 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-13 0:08 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-15 15:58 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] x86/virt/tdx: Move tdx_tdr_pa() up in the file Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 21:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-06-11 16:21 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-14 7:04 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize Quoting extension during bringup Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 21:35 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-06-14 7:10 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-11 16:22 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-14 7:20 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-13 0:00 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-14 7:50 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-29 18:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-02 9:48 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] x86/virt/tdx: Prepare Quote buffer during extension bringup Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 22:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-06-14 10:28 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] x86/virt/tdx: Add interface to check Quoting availability Xu Yilun
2026-07-01 11:25 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-02 0:19 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] x86/virt/tdx: Add interface to generate a Quote Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 22:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-06-14 11:29 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-26 9:58 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-11 17:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-14 11:36 ` Peter Fang
2026-07-01 11:46 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-02 15:58 ` Xu Yilun
2026-07-07 3:45 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] x86/tdx: Move and rename Quote request structure Xu Yilun
2026-06-11 17:16 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-14 11:50 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-13 0:04 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-14 11:51 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] KVM: TDX: Factor out userspace return path from tdx_get_quote() Xu Yilun
2026-07-02 10:08 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-07 5:01 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] KVM: TDX: Add in-kernel Quote generation Xu Yilun
2026-06-13 0:20 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-14 11:57 ` Peter Fang
2026-07-02 15:26 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-07 5:04 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] KVM: TDX: Support event-notify interrupts only with userspace quoting Xu Yilun
2026-06-11 19:36 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-14 12:57 ` Peter Fang
2026-06-15 4:39 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-15 18:14 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] x86/virt/tdx: Embed version info in SEAMCALL leaf function definitions Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 9:00 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-27 6:45 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 7:44 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-27 11:45 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-12 5:47 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-13 15:55 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-22 3:41 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] x86/virt/tdx: Enable TDX Quoting extension Xu Yilun
2026-05-25 5:17 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-05-25 10:51 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-05-26 9:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-05-26 15:45 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 1:30 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-06-07 4:41 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-06-08 15:10 ` Xu Yilun
2026-07-03 7:57 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-07 5:07 ` Peter Fang
2026-05-27 5:23 ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2026-05-27 10:38 ` [PATCH 00/15] Enable TDX Module Extensions and DICE-based TDX Quoting Xu Yilun
2026-05-27 17:09 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-05-28 4:52 ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-28 19:50 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-06-01 9:36 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-01 20:17 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-06-02 5:36 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-07 4:36 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-06-08 6:54 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-08 18:31 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-06-12 22:03 ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-15 15:22 ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-15 15:57 ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-16 15:19 ` Xu Yilun
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