From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752672AbcKRJq7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Nov 2016 04:46:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:46622 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751556AbcKRJq5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Nov 2016 04:46:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH 1/3] virtio: Basic implementation of virtio pstore driver To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Namhyung Kim References: <20160820080744.10344-1-namhyung@kernel.org> <20161110182611-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20161115045021.GA15992@danjae.aot.lge.com> <20161115065658-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20161115143629.GA29740@danjae.aot.lge.com> <1627682877.13077005.1479298236793.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <20161118033206.GA15698@danjae.aot.lge.com> <20161118060649-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, Tony Luck , Kees Cook , KVM , =?UTF-8?B?UmFkaW0gS3LEjW3DocWZ?= , Anton Vorontsov , LKML , Steven Rostedt , qemu-devel , Minchan Kim , Anthony Liguori , Colin Cross , virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar From: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <25ea40ab-587d-dcb5-fd4e-287469fa6705@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 10:46:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161118060649-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 18/11/2016 05:07, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:32:06PM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote: >> Btw I prefer using the kvmtool for my kernel work since it's much more >> simpler.. > > Up to you but then you should extend that to support 1.0 spec. > I strongly object to adding to the list of legacy interfaces > we need to maintain. I object to adding paravirtualization unless there is a good reason why the usual mechanisms for physical machines cannot be used. The cost of maintaining a spec, two device implementations (kvmtool+qemu) and a driver is not small, plus it will not work on older kernels. Paolo