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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, Jason@zx2c4.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/2] Fix splice from random/urandom
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 06:51:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2680f8ed-471d-4420-9395-70599b0f36cd@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220520060244.GA16503@lst.de>

On 5/20/22 12:02 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:55:26PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> I'm a bit torn on this one, because I _really_ want us to get rid of
>> read/write and make everything use read_iter/write_iter. Firstly because
>> it's really stupid to have two interfaces, and secondly because even
>> basic things like "can we block here" doesn't work in the older
>> interface without fiddling with file flags which is a non-starter for
>> certain things.
> 
> Converting everything was my initial plan, but Linus said no and just
> fix whatever breaks.  And compared to my initial fears the fallout
> actually isn't that bad.

That's a real shame, and very unlike Linus to advocate for just breaking
applications willy nilly. It would be a considerable amount of work
though, but it would really be great to not have ->read/->write anymore
and solely use the iter variants.

Not sure if I agree with "that bad" though looking at the number of
fixups, and we'll keep finding these going forward as well...

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 19:31 Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 19:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] random: convert to using fops->read_iter() Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:12   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:20     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:21       ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:21         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:21     ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 19:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] random: wire up fops->splice_read_iter() Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 19:48 ` [PATCHSET 0/2] Fix splice from random/urandom Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-19 19:55   ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20  6:02     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-20 12:51       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2022-05-19 20:05 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 20:49   ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 21:02     ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:15       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:22         ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:25           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:33             ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:39               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:44                 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:13     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:19       ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:23         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:25           ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:27             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:57               ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20  0:00                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20  0:02                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20  0:48                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20  0:56                       ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20  1:00                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20  1:05                           ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20  1:10                           ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 12:43                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 12:49                               ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 13:04                                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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