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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Russell Leidich <rml@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] AMD Thermal Interrupt Support
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:57:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27599.1198897033@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:34:34 +0100." <200712290334.34609.ak@suse.de>

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:34:34 +0100, Andi Kleen said:
> On Saturday 29 December 2007 03:30:17 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:11:51 +0100, Andi Kleen said:
> > > On Friday 28 December 2007 21:40:28 Russell Leidich wrote:
> > 
> > > +		printk(KERN_CRIT "CPU 0x%x: Thermal monitoring not "
> > > +			"functional.\n", cpu);
> > > 
> > > Why is that KERN_CRIT? Does not seem that critical to me.
> > 
> > If you think you're running on a chipset that *should* support thermal
> > monitoring, and it isn't there in a usable state, that seems pretty critical
> > to me.  If that didn't work, you probably can't trust the "oh, the chip will
> > thermal-limit itself if it gets to 100C or whatever" either.
>
> Thermal shutdown in emergency uses quite different mechanisms (e.g. it goes
> directly through pins to the motherboard); i don't think that code checks for
> that.

Right. My point is that if monitoring *should* be working, and it isn't, then
you don't have a lot of reason to be 100% confident that those pins are working
either.  Unless there's two totally separate temperature sensors - otherwise,
if that sensor goes out, thermal monitoring and the emergency stuff *both*
break.

Of course, if somebody wise on the actual hardware design can definitively
state that even if the thermal sensor the monitoring uses dies, the chipset
will still thermal-throttle correctly, then I'd agree that the message could
go down to KERN_ERR or KERN_WARN.....


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-29  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-17 18:54 Russell Leidich
2007-12-25 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-27 18:57   ` Russell Leidich
2007-12-28  7:34     ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-28 20:40       ` Russell Leidich
2007-12-29  2:11         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-29  2:30           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-29  2:34             ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-29  2:57               ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2007-12-30 18:39         ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-02 19:43           ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-02 20:00             ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-02 21:12               ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-02 21:33                 ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-01-02 21:50                   ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-02 21:54                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-02 22:32                       ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-04 21:33                       ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-04 22:26                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-05  0:53                           ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-05 13:24                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-05 20:08                               ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-08 23:42                                 ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-08 23:52                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-09  2:28                                     ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-09  2:37                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-11  2:21                                         ` Russell Leidich
2008-01-18  1:06                                           ` Russell Leidich
2008-02-03  0:10                                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-03  0:27                                               ` Harvey Harrison
2008-02-03  0:39                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-03  0:50                                                   ` [PATCH] x86: Remove pt_regs arg from smp_thermal_interrupt Harvey Harrison
2008-02-03  1:01                                                     ` Harvey Harrison
2008-02-04  7:12                                                       ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-12-11 18:44 [PATCH] AMD Thermal Interrupt Support Russell Leidich
2007-12-11 19:13 ` Russell Leidich

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