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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ned Ulbricht <nedu@netscape.net>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Maarten Brock <Maarten.Brock@sttls.nl>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-api@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Serial port DTR/RTS - O_<something>
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2025 16:47:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2846db90-fb05-41d2-b8de-c678af75a04b@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c26eea2-6f90-f48a-9488-e7480f086c70@netscape.net>

On 2025-11-15 13:29, Ned Ulbricht wrote:
> |
> | O_TTY_INIT
> 
> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/
> 
> That's what motivates my first-glance preference to name this new flag,
> which will have approximately opposite behavior, as O_TTY_NOINIT.
> 
> But as a generic abstraction, I more prefer O_KEEP.
> 

O_KEEP seems a little vague, but O_KEEPCONFIG seems like a decent name.

It seems like we don't have several new flags:

	O_EXEC
	O_SEARCH
	O_CLOFORK
	O_TTY_INIT
	O_RSYNC
	O_NOCLOBBER

Some of them *may* be possible to construct with existing Linux options, I'm
not 100% sure; in particular O_SEARCH might be the same as (O_DIRECTORY|O_PATH).

O_NOCLOBBER looks like an odd in-between between O_EXCL and
(O_EXCL|O_NOFOLLOW); stated to be specifically to implement the shell
"noclobber" semantic.

	-hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-16  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07  7:53 RFC: Serial port DTR/RTS - O_NRESETDEV H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-07 17:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-09  2:25   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-10  3:35     ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-10  5:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-10 10:06         ` Maarten Brock
2025-11-10 20:19           ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-10 21:05             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-11  3:51               ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-11  3:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-11  4:38                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-11-11 10:21                     ` Maarten Brock
2025-11-11 21:28                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 11:22                   ` Greg KH
2025-11-12 16:09                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 16:46                       ` Greg KH
2025-11-12 19:12                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 19:39                           ` Greg KH
2025-11-12 19:53                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 19:55                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-13 22:24                             ` RFC: Serial port DTR/RTS - O_<something> H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-14 10:26                               ` Maarten Brock
2025-11-14 18:49                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-11-14 18:53                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-15 21:29                                   ` Ned Ulbricht
2025-11-15 22:29                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-16  0:47                                     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2025-11-18 16:33                                       ` Ned Ulbricht
2025-11-18 17:31                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 18:05                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-20 13:31                                           ` Ned Ulbricht
2025-11-10  5:20   ` RFC: Serial port DTR/RTS - O_NRESETDEV H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-09 20:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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