From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDF4ECE562 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 07:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629AF214C4 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 07:57:37 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 629AF214C4 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lichtvoll.de Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727999AbeIQNXt (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:23:49 -0400 Received: from mondschein.lichtvoll.de ([194.150.191.11]:37107 "EHLO mail.lichtvoll.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726732AbeIQNXt (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:23:49 -0400 Authentication-Results: auth=pass smtp.auth=martin smtp.mailfrom=martin@lichtvoll.de Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lichtvoll.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E8A53AEA2D; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:57:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Steigerwald To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?W+KApl0=?= an apology, and a maintainership note Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:57:32 +0200 Message-ID: <2882117.Jnuu2veLAZ@merkaba> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dear Linus. Linus Torvalds - 16.09.18, 21:22: > This is my reality. I am not an emotionally empathetic kind of person > and that probably doesn't come as a big surprise to anybody. Least > of all me. The fact that I then misread people and don't realize > (for years) how badly I've judged a situation and contributed to an > unprofessional environment is not good. > > This week people in our community confronted me about my lifetime of > not understanding emotions. My flippant attacks in emails have been > both unprofessional and uncalled for. Especially at times when I made > it personal. In my quest for a better patch, this made sense to me. > I know now this was not OK and I am truly sorry. > > The above is basically a long-winded way to get to the somewhat > painful personal admission that hey, I need to change some of my > behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal > behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development > entirely. I applaud you for the courage to go the bold step you have gone with this mail. I can imagine coming up with this mail has been challenging for you. Your step provides a big chance for a shift to happen towards a more welcoming and friendly Linux kernel community. From what I saw here as mostly someone who tests rc kernels and as mostly a by-stander of kernel development you may not be the only one here having challenges to deal with emotions. I once learned that there may be two types of personality, one who dives deeply into emotions and one who does not. Two types of personality who often have challenges to understand each other. I believe that people of those two types of personality can learn from each other. It is important to move beyond right and wrong or good and bad in this. Whenever I act, I receive feedback (even the lack of feedback is a feedback). Do I like this feedback? Or do I like to create a different result? If I like to create a different result, its important to act differently, as its unlikely that the same behavior will create a different result. Thank you, Linus. -- Martin