From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timekeeping: Initialize TAI offset to 37 seconds
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2026 08:00:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <28f6c9b14c7e83fc532ba61c95c366e732ab215a.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261105135316.2465369-1-mlichvar@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 2026-11-05 at 14:53 +0100, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> With Resolution 5 of the 28th CGPM (continuous UTC becoming effective on
> 20 May 2027) [1] and no leap second announced for the last possible
> date at the end of the year 2026 [2], no more leap seconds or other
> leaps in UTC are expected for at least a few hundred years. The TAI-UTC
> offset can be assumed now to be constant (37 seconds).
>
> Set the offset in the timekeeping initialization to the expected value
> to not require it to be set in user space via ADJ_TAI. It can still be
> changed, and leap seconds can still be set, but nothing should be
> expected to do that anymore. Existing applications are expected to
> either set the offset to the same value, or not touch it at all if they
> see it is not zero.
>
> [1] https://www.bipm.org/en/cgpm-2026/resolution-5
> [2] https://datacenter.iers.org/data/16/bulletinc-072.txt
For the kernel patch,
Acked-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
Although I don't want that to be taken as any kind of endorsement of
the rampant horseshit that is this statement from your [1]:
|recognizing that
|
| industrial users and the synchronization needs of national critical
| infrastructures, for example transportation, energy distribution,
| telecommunication, and space projects require UTC to be continuous
| without any future adjustment,
... or of the idea that doing a *larger* jump, much *less* frequently,
is a better idea. They should have just inserted either a positive or
negative leap second at *every* opportunity instead, to help make sure
that bugs are caught.
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2026-11-05 13:53 Miroslav Lichvar
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2026-11-05 19:42 ` John Stultz
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