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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	corbet@lwn.net, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE REVERT URGENTLY: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] x86/boot: add acpi rsdp address to setup_header
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:32:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2934552c-d150-0afb-6fa9-9398cb94d86a@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd2d17cd-072c-cad6-94ad-52373700a1c9@suse.com>

> 
> Unfortunately there are many major distros shipping boot loaders which
> write crap data past the end of setup_header.
> 

Yes. We know that and it is resolved by:

a) the length field in setup_header;
b) the "sentinel" field which catches legacy non-compliant bootloaders.

>>
>> This field thus belongs in struct boot_params, not struct setup_header.
> 
> Okay, I can change that. Hoping that all boot loaders really write
> zeroes to that field in case they don't know it.
> 

This is what we added the sentinel field for: bootloaders which don't zero
unknown fields (read: Grub) will trigger the sentinel, and we wipe most of
this structure.

>>
>> Fields in struct boot_params are to be initialized to zero.
> 
> See above. grub2 in Debian, RHEL, ... doesn't do that reliably.
> 

See above.

>> There is a field called "sentinel" which attempts to detect broken
>> bootloaders which do not do this correctly; however, when enabling new
>> bootloaders the Right Thing to do is to make sure they adhere to the
>> protocol as defined, rather than pushing a new hack onto the kernel.
>>
>> Thus:
>>
>> 1. Please revert this patch immediately, and destroy any boot loaders
>>    which tries to implement this.> 2. Add the acpi_rsdp_addr to struct boot_params.
>> 3. DO NOT modify the boot protocol version header field. Instead
>>    make sure that the bootloader follows the protocol and zeroes
>>    all unknown fields in struct boot_params.
> 
> How can I do this for boot loaders shipped since several years?

Once again, you are adding new functionality; that is when you should fix
their implementation. The sentinel handles legacy bootloaders.

>> 4. Possibly make the kernel panic if it notices that the boot version
>>    header has been mucked with, in case some of these boot loaders
>>    have already escaped into the field.
> 
> So don't let a new kernel boot from a disk with above grub2?
> 
> I don't think so.

If there are any grubs which escaped with this broken protocol hack only.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-10  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10  6:14 [PATCH v5 0/3] x86: make rsdp address accessible via boot params Juergen Gross
2018-10-10  6:14 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] x86/xen: fix boot loader version reported for pvh guests Juergen Gross
2018-10-10  6:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] x86/boot: add acpi rsdp address to setup_header Juergen Gross
2018-11-09 22:23   ` PLEASE REVERT URGENTLY: " H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-10  0:38     ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-10  6:26     ` Juergen Gross
2018-11-10  6:32       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2018-11-10  7:02         ` Juergen Gross
2018-11-10  7:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-10  9:03             ` Juergen Gross
2018-11-11 18:49               ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-19 16:48                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-11-10 15:22     ` Juergen Gross
2018-11-11 23:58       ` hpa
2018-10-10  6:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] x86/acpi: take rsdp address for boot params if available Juergen Gross
2018-10-10  6:23 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] x86: make rsdp address accessible via boot params Ingo Molnar
2018-10-10  6:39   ` Juergen Gross
2018-10-10  7:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-10  7:28       ` Juergen Gross

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