From: "Paul Heidekrüger" <Paul.Heidekrueger@in.tum.de>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
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Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
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Pramod Bhatotia <pramod.bhatotia@in.tum.de>,
Soham Chakraborty <s.s.chakraborty@tudelft.nl>,
Martin Fink <martin.fink@in.tum.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Weaken ctrl dependency definition in explanation.txt
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 22:53:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2FD673C3-F8FA-428C-B8B1-4DBC71AFDF0C@in.tum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxIQrT+jFteFd8+e@rowland.harvard.edu>
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On 2. Sep 2022, at 16:18, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 10:40:34AM +0200, Paul Heidekrüger wrote:
>> On 31. Aug 2022, at 19:38, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Finally, a read event X and another memory access event Y are linked by a
>>>>> control dependency if Y syntactically lies within an arm of an if
>>>>> statement and X affects the evaluation of the if condition via a data or
>>>>> address dependency. Similarly for switch statements.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> I like the second one. How about combining the last two sentences?
>>>
>>> ... via a data or address dependency (or similarly for a switch
>>> statement).
>>
>> Yes, sounds good!
>>
>>> Now I suppose someone will pipe up and ask about the conditional
>>> expressions in "for", "while" and "do" statements... :-)
>>
>> Happy to have obliged :-)
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20F4C097-24B4-416B-95EE-AC11F5952B44@in.tum.de/
>>
>> Do you think the text should explicitly address control dependencies in the
>> context of loops as well? If yes, would it be a separate patch, or would it
>> make sense to combine it with this one?
>
> Anything else should be a separate patch.
>
> For the time being, I'm happy not to worry about loops. In the end
> we'll probably have to describe them as though they were unrolled,
> with all the complications that entails.
OK, sounds good!
Since there aren't any other immediate objections, I'll go ahead an resubmit
a v3 version of the patch with all the changes we discussed then.
Many thanks,
Paul
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-02 20:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-30 20:44 Paul Heidekrüger
2022-08-30 21:08 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-30 21:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-31 1:57 ` Alan Stern
2022-08-31 16:42 ` Paul Heidekrüger
2022-08-31 17:38 ` Alan Stern
2022-08-31 18:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-02 8:40 ` Paul Heidekrüger
2022-09-02 14:18 ` Alan Stern
2022-09-02 20:53 ` Paul Heidekrüger [this message]
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