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From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2026 09:32:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b73666e-d923-4042-b719-b9bdeca783c8@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA3PR11MB9136F32FBA9D830C48EBA968929D2@IA3PR11MB9136.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>



On 14.10.26 г. 6:06 ч., Duan, Zhenzhong wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind
>> operations
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24.09.26 г. 7:10 ч., Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>>> Introduce support for binding and unbinding the Trust Device Interface
>>> (TDI) using the TDCM_OP_BIND and TDCM_OP_UNBIND commands.
>>>
>>> Executing TDCM_OP_BIND transitions the TDI state to a locked state
>>> (TDI_STATE_CONFIG_LOCKED). Add a sanity check following the bind operation
>>> to verify this state transition succeeded before finalizing device locking.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>    	struct tdx_devsec *tdevsec __free(kfree) = kzalloc(sizeof(*tdevsec),
>> GFP_KERNEL);
>>> @@ -174,6 +233,19 @@ static struct pci_tsm *tdx_devsec_lock(struct tsm_dev
>> *tsm_dev, struct pci_dev *
>>>    	if (!tdx_is_dev_teeio_support(tdevsec))
>>>    		return ERR_PTR(-EOPNOTSUPP);
>>>
>>> +	struct tdx_devsec *tdevsec_bind __free(tdx_tdi_unbind_dev) =
>> tdx_tdi_bind_dev(tdevsec);
>>> +	if (IS_ERR(tdevsec_bind))
>>> +		return ERR_CAST(tdevsec_bind);
>>> +
>>> +	ret = tdx_tdi_read_state(tdevsec, &state);
>>> +	if (ret)
>>> +		return ERR_PTR(ret);
>>> +
>>> +	if (state != TDI_STATE_CONFIG_LOCKED)
>>> +		return ERR_PTR(-EIO);
>>
>> While this does seem correct, it's not really following the spec or I'm being too
>> rigid, namely:
>>
>> Since TDI can change the state any time, TD can't fully rely on the Known RUN
>> state in any scenario. However, TD can rely on the Known
>> RUN state after TDG.TDI.START as a confirmation of the Interface Start.
> 
> About TDI changing state any time, do you mean host changes TDI state,
> e.g., through TDH.TDI.STOP? Or you mean TDI device goes into TDISP error state
> due to hw error? Can't they happen even after TDG.TDI.START?

I've taken this verbatim from the latest TDX connect spec, I'd assume 
what it refers to is the TDI/device getting into error state because the 
DSM deemed so because of whatever reason. I believe there is an inherent 
TOCTOU race here, because you can at best get a momentary snapshot of 
the state but the DSM, which is inherently an independent entry could 
for whatever reason decide to enter in error state (highly unlikely, but 
still possible!)

> 
>>
>> But here we still haven't done a START, just a BIND, no ?
> 
> Yes
> 

<snip>

> 
> I understand this as a best-effort sanity check, not a guarantee that
> the interface will remain in this state.
> 
> For example, suppose the host creates the TDI but incorrectly reports
> BIND complete without completing TDH.TDI.BIND. In the module
> implementation I’m looking at, TDG.TDI.RD(INTERFACE_STATE) returns the
> stored TDISP state without requiring the internal TDI state to be BOUND.
> A successful read could therefore return CONFIG_UNLOCKED.
> 
> At this point we have bound the interface but have not started it, so
> CONFIG_LOCKED is the state we expect. Checking it catches that
> inconsistency; checking only the TDCALL return code would not. This is
> still a snapshot, not proof against a subsequent state change.

Makes sense, IIUC it states the same thing I stated above i.e a 
snapshot, so perhaps this check could be carved in a different patch 
with the changelog containing this reasoning?

> 
> BRs,
> Zhenzhong
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-14  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-24  4:10 [RFC PATCH 00/15] PCI/TSM: coco/tdx-guest: Implement TDX-Connect PCIe TDISP (phase2) Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] x86/tdx: Export tdg_vm_rd() for tdx-guest module Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-30 22:13   ` Peter Fang
2026-10-01 12:38     ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-08  6:45       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:30         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:34   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  6:19     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14  6:27       ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  7:22         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.RD module call " Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-25  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  6:27     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:42       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09  2:28         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support devsec TSM for secure devices Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO support check Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:31   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  6:11     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 12:52   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 12:10   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  3:06     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14  6:32       ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2026-10-14  7:33         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] PCI/TSM: Track Device Interface Report MMIO range index Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.MMIO.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 23:41   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-25  0:02     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  6:01       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:47         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  5:49     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:44       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09  2:16         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] virt: tdx-guest: Capture the TDI report during device lock Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] virt: tdx-guest: Set up and accept private MMIO ranges Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.START module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support Trust Device Interface (TDI) activation Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] x86/tdx: Add __tdcall_saved() helper Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.DMAR.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] virt: tdx-guest: Accept default DMAR entry during PCI driver attach Zhenzhong Duan

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