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From: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	Miko.Lenczewski@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	scott@os.amperecomputing.com, cl@gentwo.org
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v4 PATCH 0/4] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:57:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b816a20-a0ce-43b2-b76f-d9e175913b27@os.amperecomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5491098f-5508-4665-a8dc-b91a950bbc02@arm.com>



On 6/16/25 2:09 AM, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 13/06/2025 18:21, Yang Shi wrote:
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> Gently ping... any comments for this version?
> Hi Yang, yes sorry for slow response - It's been in my queue. I'm going to start
> looking at it now and plan to get you some feedback in the next couple of days.
>
>> It looks Dev's series is getting stable except some nits. I went through his
>> patches and all the call sites for changing page permission. They are:
>>    1. change_memory_common(): called by set_memory_{ro|rw|x|nx}. It iterates
>> every single page mapped in the vm area then change permission on page basis. It
>> depends on whether the vm area is block mapped or not if we want to change
>>       permission on block mapping.
>>    2. set_memory_valid(): it looks it assumes the [addr, addr + size) range is
>> mapped contiguously, but it depends on the callers pass in block size (nr > 1).
>> There are two sub cases:
>>       2.a kfence and debugalloc just work for PTE mapping, so they pass in single
>> page.
>>       2.b The execmem passes in large page on x86, arm64 has not supported huge
>> execmem cache yet, so it should still pass in singe page for the time being. But
>> my series + Dev's series can handle both single page mapping and block mapping well
>>           for this case. So changing permission for block mapping can be
>> supported automatically once arm64 supports huge execmem cache.
>>    3. set_direct_map_{invalid|default}_noflush(): it looks they are page basis.
>> So Dev's series has no change to them.
>>    4. realm: if I remember correctly, realm forces PTE mapping for linear address
>> space all the time, so no impact.
> Yes for realm, we currently force PTE mapping - that's because we need page
> granularity for sharing certain portions back to the host. But with this work I
> think we will be able to do the splitting on the fly and map using big blocks
> even for realms.

OK, it is good to support more usecase.

>> So it looks like just #1 may need some extra work. But it seems simple. I should
>> just need advance the address range in (1 << vm's order) stride. So there should
>> be just some minor changes when I rebase my patches on top of Dev's, mainly
>> context changes. It has no impact to the split primitive and repainting linear
>> mapping.
> I haven't looked at your series yet, but I had assumed that the most convenient
> (and only) integration point would be to call your split primitive from dev's
> ___change_memory_common() (note 3 underscores at beginning). Something like this:
>
> ___change_memory_common(unsigned long start, unsigned long size, ...)
> {
> 	// This will need to return error for case where splitting would have
> 	// been required but system does not support BBML2_NOABORT
> 	ret = split_mapping_granularity(start, start + size)
> 	if (ret)
> 		return ret;
>
> 	...
> }

Yeah, I agree. All callsites converge to ___change_memory_common() once 
Dev's series is applied.

Thanks,
Yang

>> Thanks,
>> Yang
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/25 7:41 PM, Yang Shi wrote:
>>> Changelog
>>> =========
>>> v4:
>>>     * Rebased to v6.15-rc4.
>>>     * Based on Miko's latest BBML2 cpufeature patch (https://lore.kernel.org/
>>> linux-arm-kernel/20250428153514.55772-4-miko.lenczewski@arm.com/).
>>>     * Keep block mappings rather than splitting to PTEs if it is fully contained
>>>       per Ryan.
>>>     * Return -EINVAL if page table allocation failed instead of BUG_ON per Ryan.
>>>     * When page table allocation failed, return -1 instead of 0 per Ryan.
>>>     * Allocate page table with GFP_ATOMIC for repainting per Ryan.
>>>     * Use idmap to wait for repainting is done per Ryan.
>>>     * Some minor fixes per the discussion for v3.
>>>     * Some clean up to reduce redundant code.
>>>
>>> v3:
>>>     * Rebased to v6.14-rc4.
>>>     * Based on Miko's BBML2 cpufeature patch (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-
>>> arm-kernel/20250228182403.6269-3-miko.lenczewski@arm.com/).
>>>       Also included in this series in order to have the complete patchset.
>>>     * Enhanced __create_pgd_mapping() to handle split as well per Ryan.
>>>     * Supported CONT mappings per Ryan.
>>>     * Supported asymmetric system by splitting kernel linear mapping if such
>>>       system is detected per Ryan. I don't have such system to test, so the
>>>       testing is done by hacking kernel to call linear mapping repainting
>>>       unconditionally. The linear mapping doesn't have any block and cont
>>>       mappings after booting.
>>>
>>> RFC v2:
>>>     * Used allowlist to advertise BBM lv2 on the CPUs which can handle TLB
>>>       conflict gracefully per Will Deacon
>>>     * Rebased onto v6.13-rc5
>>>     *https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20250103011822.1257189-1-
>>> yang@os.amperecomputing.com/
>>>
>>> v3:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20250304222018.615808-1-
>>> yang@os.amperecomputing.com/
>>> RFC v2:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20250103011822.1257189-1-
>>> yang@os.amperecomputing.com/
>>> RFC v1:https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241118181711.962576-1-
>>> yang@os.amperecomputing.com/
>>>
>>> Description
>>> ===========
>>> When rodata=full kernel linear mapping is mapped by PTE due to arm's
>>> break-before-make rule.
>>>
>>> A number of performance issues arise when the kernel linear map is using
>>> PTE entries due to arm's break-before-make rule:
>>>     - performance degradation
>>>     - more TLB pressure
>>>     - memory waste for kernel page table
>>>
>>> These issues can be avoided by specifying rodata=on the kernel command
>>> line but this disables the alias checks on page table permissions and
>>> therefore compromises security somewhat.
>>>
>>> With FEAT_BBM level 2 support it is no longer necessary to invalidate the
>>> page table entry when changing page sizes.  This allows the kernel to
>>> split large mappings after boot is complete.
>>>
>>> This patch adds support for splitting large mappings when FEAT_BBM level 2
>>> is available and rodata=full is used. This functionality will be used
>>> when modifying page permissions for individual page frames.
>>>
>>> Without FEAT_BBM level 2 we will keep the kernel linear map using PTEs
>>> only.
>>>
>>> If the system is asymmetric, the kernel linear mapping may be repainted once
>>> the BBML2 capability is finalized on all CPUs.  See patch #4 for more details.
>>>
>>> We saw significant performance increases in some benchmarks with
>>> rodata=full without compromising the security features of the kernel.
>>>
>>> Testing
>>> =======
>>> The test was done on AmpereOne machine (192 cores, 1P) with 256GB memory and
>>> 4K page size + 48 bit VA.
>>>
>>> Function test (4K/16K/64K page size)
>>>     - Kernel boot.  Kernel needs change kernel linear mapping permission at
>>>       boot stage, if the patch didn't work, kernel typically didn't boot.
>>>     - Module stress from stress-ng. Kernel module load change permission for
>>>       linear mapping.
>>>     - A test kernel module which allocates 80% of total memory via vmalloc(),
>>>       then change the vmalloc area permission to RO, this also change linear
>>>       mapping permission to RO, then change it back before vfree(). Then launch
>>>       a VM which consumes almost all physical memory.
>>>     - VM with the patchset applied in guest kernel too.
>>>     - Kernel build in VM with guest kernel which has this series applied.
>>>     - rodata=on. Make sure other rodata mode is not broken.
>>>     - Boot on the machine which doesn't support BBML2.
>>>
>>> Performance
>>> ===========
>>> Memory consumption
>>> Before:
>>> MemTotal:       258988984 kB
>>> MemFree:        254821700 kB
>>>
>>> After:
>>> MemTotal:       259505132 kB
>>> MemFree:        255410264 kB
>>>
>>> Around 500MB more memory are free to use.  The larger the machine, the
>>> more memory saved.
>>>
>>> Performance benchmarking
>>> * Memcached
>>> We saw performance degradation when running Memcached benchmark with
>>> rodata=full vs rodata=on.  Our profiling pointed to kernel TLB pressure.
>>> With this patchset we saw ops/sec is increased by around 3.5%, P99
>>> latency is reduced by around 9.6%.
>>> The gain mainly came from reduced kernel TLB misses.  The kernel TLB
>>> MPKI is reduced by 28.5%.
>>>
>>> The benchmark data is now on par with rodata=on too.
>>>
>>> * Disk encryption (dm-crypt) benchmark
>>> Ran fio benchmark with the below command on a 128G ramdisk (ext4) with disk
>>> encryption (by dm-crypt with no read/write workqueue).
>>> fio --directory=/data --random_generator=lfsr --norandommap --randrepeat 1 \
>>>       --status-interval=999 --rw=write --bs=4k --loops=1 --ioengine=sync \
>>>       --iodepth=1 --numjobs=1 --fsync_on_close=1 --group_reporting --thread \
>>>       --name=iops-test-job --eta-newline=1 --size 100G
>>>
>>> The IOPS is increased by 90% - 150% (the variance is high, but the worst
>>> number of good case is around 90% more than the best number of bad case).
>>> The bandwidth is increased and the avg clat is reduced proportionally.
>>>
>>> * Sequential file read
>>> Read 100G file sequentially on XFS (xfs_io read with page cache populated).
>>> The bandwidth is increased by 150%.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yang Shi (4):
>>>         arm64: cpufeature: add AmpereOne to BBML2 allow list
>>>         arm64: mm: make __create_pgd_mapping() and helpers non-void
>>>         arm64: mm: support large block mapping when rodata=full
>>>         arm64: mm: split linear mapping if BBML2 is not supported on secondary
>>> CPUs
>>>
>>>    arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h |  26 +++++++
>>>    arch/arm64/include/asm/mmu.h        |   4 +
>>>    arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h    |  12 ++-
>>>    arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c      |  30 ++++++--
>>>    arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c                 | 505 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> +---------------
>>>    arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c            |  37 +++++++--
>>>    arch/arm64/mm/proc.S                |  41 ++++++++++
>>>    7 files changed, 585 insertions(+), 70 deletions(-)
>>>


      reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-31  2:41 Yang Shi
2025-05-31  2:41 ` [PATCH 1/4] arm64: cpufeature: add AmpereOne to BBML2 allow list Yang Shi
2025-05-31  2:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64: mm: make __create_pgd_mapping() and helpers non-void Yang Shi
2025-06-16 10:04   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 21:11     ` Yang Shi
2025-06-23 13:05       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-31  2:41 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: mm: support large block mapping when rodata=full Yang Shi
2025-06-16 11:58   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-16 12:33     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 21:01       ` Yang Shi
2025-06-16 16:24   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 21:09     ` Yang Shi
2025-06-23 13:26       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-23 19:12         ` Yang Shi
2025-06-26 22:39         ` Yang Shi
2025-07-23 17:38         ` Dev Jain
2025-07-23 20:51           ` Yang Shi
2025-07-24 11:43             ` Dev Jain
2025-07-24 17:59               ` Yang Shi
2025-05-31  2:41 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64: mm: split linear mapping if BBML2 is not supported on secondary CPUs Yang Shi
2025-06-23 12:26   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-23 20:56     ` Yang Shi
2025-06-13 17:21 ` [v4 PATCH 0/4] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full Yang Shi
2025-06-16  9:09   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 20:57     ` Yang Shi [this message]

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