From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Navid Ghahremani" <ghahramani.navid@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Stefan Dösinger" <stefandoesinger@gmail.com>,
"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/24] ARM: l2c: Serialize device reads with cache maintenance when requested
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2026 16:48:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bebabca-9df1-4ccd-afdc-3a1740c05061@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261011010223.2379347-1-ghahramani.navid@gmail.com>
On Sun, Oct 11, 2026, at 03:02, Navid Ghahremani wrote:
>
> Thank you again for the suggestion to test arm,outer-sync-disable. I
> have now completed extensive hardware tests on the physical ZTE ZXHN
> H3600 across multiple bring-up orders and load scenarios, and
> unfortunately disabling outer-sync alone is not sufficient to prevent
> the interconnect deadlock.
>
> Here is what I tested:
> 1. Added arm,outer-sync-disable to the l2cc node in the device tree
> (zx279128s.dtsi).
> 2. Rebuilt the kernel with CONFIG_CACHE_L2X0_IO_LOCK disabled and
> completely removed my custom read lock from both cache-l2x0 and mt76.
> 3. Netbooted the initramfs uImage over TFTP into RAM via U-Boot (zero
> flash modification).
>
> The kernel booted cleanly and confirmed the configuration:
> [ 0.000000] L2C: disabling outer sync
> [ 0.000000] L2C-310 cache controller enabled, 16 ways, 256 kB
>
> Both MT7915 cards enumerated over PCIe and initialized firmware. Here
> are the observed results across the different test scenarios:
Thanks for the detailed testing!
> Given that this is a silicon crossbar flaw that requires software
> serialization, what would you recommend as the cleanest, most
> acceptable way to structure this for upstream? Would you prefer keeping
> the serialization lock as an SoC-specific quirk in cache-l2x0, or is
> there an alternative architectural mechanism you would suggest?
The best idea I have so far is to delay solving this problem and
just upstream the patches that are not impacted by it for the moment.
Even if you never upstream patches 2 and 3, that would still
get you much closer to something that works out of the box.
My hope would be that there is some errata workaround that you
can simply turn on with a chicken bit in the firmware, but if the
vendor BSP has the same approach as you tried here, that seems
a lot less likely.
You can also try to avoid the issue in a way that trades it for
overall performance, e.g. using only one CPU and turning off
the L2 coherency management in the CCU, or leaving SMP enabled
but turning off the L2 cache. Not sure if either approach would
work at all, and the performance cost may make this impractical.
At least it would give you something that works reliably
while you can still use a patched kernel for better performance.
One possible idea would be to use the helpers from
lib/logic_iomem.c to register a special MMIO range that takes
care of PCI MMIO regardless of the PCI device driver. This seems
like a cleaner approach, but I cannot guarantee that any patches
for this would find consensus.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-11 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-10 12:59 [PATCH RFC 00/24] ARM: zte: Add support for Sanechips ZX279128S and ZTE ZXHN H3600 Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 01/24] dt-bindings: cache: l2c2x0: Describe ZTE device-read serialization Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 02/24] ARM: l2c: Serialize device reads with cache maintenance when requested Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 14:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-10-10 21:41 ` Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 1:02 ` Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 14:48 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 03/24] wifi: mt76: Serialize MMIO reads with outer cache maintenance Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 04/24] dt-bindings: arm: Add ZTE ZX279128S platform descriptions Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 05/24] ARM: zte: Add ZX279128S platform and CPU hotplug support Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 14:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-10-10 17:34 ` Stefan Dösinger
2026-10-10 21:26 ` Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 06/24] dt-bindings: clock: Add ZTE ZX279128S CRM clocks and resets Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 9:13 ` Stefan Dösinger
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 07/24] clk: zte: Add ZX279128S CRM clock and reset driver Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 11:10 ` Stefan Dösinger
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 08/24] dt-bindings: gpio: Add ZTE ZX279128S GPIO controller Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 09/24] gpio: Add ZTE ZX279128S GPIO driver Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 11:19 ` Stefan Dösinger
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 10/24] dt-bindings: pinctrl: pinctrl-single: Add ZTE ZX279128S pin mux Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 11/24] dt-bindings: mfd: syscon: Add ZX279128S system controller Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 12/24] dt-bindings: PCI: Add ZTE ZX279128S host controller Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 13/24] PCI: dwc: Add ZTE ZX279128S host controller driver Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 13:03 ` Stefan Dösinger
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 14/24] dt-bindings: net: Add ZTE ZX279128S MDIO controller Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 15/24] net: mdio: " Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 16/24] net: phy: Add Sanechips ZX5201 PHY support Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 17/24] dt-bindings: net: Add ZTE ZX279128S Ethernet switch Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 18/24] net: ethernet: zte: Add ZX279128S Ethernet switch driver Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 19/24] dt-bindings: spi: Add ZTE ZX279128S SPI flash controller Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 20/24] " Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-11 16:32 ` Stefan Dösinger
2026-10-10 12:59 ` [PATCH 21/24] dt-bindings: usb: Add ZTE ZX279128S DWC3 controller Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 13:00 ` [PATCH 22/24] usb: dwc3: generic-plat: Add ZTE ZX279128S Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 13:00 ` [PATCH 23/24] ARM: dts: zte: Add ZX279128S SoC description Navid Ghahremani
2026-10-10 13:00 ` [PATCH 24/24] ARM: dts: zte: Add ZTE ZXHN H3600 board Navid Ghahremani
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