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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] tracing: Enforce the persistent ring buffer to be page aligned
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:03:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bf00be2-9ab9-442b-b68e-04ae7075ed1f@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9a816d8-ce2f-4c89-a798-ef565febb906@efficios.com>

On 2025-04-02 11:01, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-04-02 05:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 06:58:12PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>> From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>>>
>>> Enforce that the address and the size of the memory used by the 
>>> persistent
>>> ring buffer is page aligned. Also update the documentation to reflect 
>>> this
>>> requirement.
> 

[ Please disregard this duplicate message and consider
   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/c3e395d7-0c64-44d0-a0a7-57205b2ab712@efficios.com/T/#m461e6111397b33c037f6fb746ed74ffbd0a4340f
   instead. ]

> I've been loosely following this thread, and I'm confused about one
> thing.
> 
> AFAIU the goal is to have the ftrace persistent ring buffer written to
> through a memory range mapped by vmap_page_range(), and userspace maps
> the buffer with its own virtual mappings.
> 
> With respect to architectures with aliasing dcache, is the plan:
> 
> A) To make sure all persistent ring buffer mappings are aligned on
>     SHMLBA:
> 
> Quoting "Documentation/core-api/cachetlb.rst":
> 
>    Is your port susceptible to virtual aliasing in its D-cache?
>    Well, if your D-cache is virtually indexed, is larger in size than
>    PAGE_SIZE, and does not prevent multiple cache lines for the same
>    physical address from existing at once, you have this problem.
> 
>    If your D-cache has this problem, first define asm/shmparam.h SHMLBA
>    properly, it should essentially be the size of your virtually
>    addressed D-cache (or if the size is variable, the largest possible
>    size).  This setting will force the SYSv IPC layer to only allow user
>    processes to mmap shared memory at address which are a multiple of
>    this value.
> 
> or
> 
> B) to flush both the kernel and userspace mappings when a ring buffer
>     page is handed over from writer to reader ?
> 
> I've seen both approaches being discussed in the recent threads, with
> some participants recommending approach (A), but then the code
> revisions that follow take approach (B).
> 
> AFAIU, it we are aiming for approach (A), then I'm missing where
> vmap_page_range() guarantees that the _kernel_ virtual mapping is
> SHMLBA aligned. AFAIU, only user mappings are aligned on SHMLBA.
> 
> And if we aiming towards approach (A), then the explicit flushing
> is not needed when handing over pages from writer to reader.
> 
> Please let me know if I'm missing something,
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
>>>
>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk- 
>>> =whUOfVucfJRt7E0AH+GV41ELmS4wJqxHDnui6Giddfkzw@mail.gmail.com/
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Steven Rostedt (Google) <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>>> ---
>>>   Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt |  2 ++
>>>   Documentation/trace/debugging.rst               |  2 ++
>>>   kernel/trace/trace.c                            | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>   3 files changed, 16 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/ 
>>> Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> index 3435a062a208..f904fd8481bd 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> @@ -7266,6 +7266,8 @@
>>>               This is just one of many ways that can clear memory. 
>>> Make sure your system
>>>               keeps the content of memory across reboots before 
>>> relying on this option.
>>> +            NB: Both the mapped address and size must be page 
>>> aligned for the architecture.
>>> +
>>>               See also Documentation/trace/debugging.rst
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/trace/debugging.rst b/Documentation/trace/ 
>>> debugging.rst
>>> index 54fb16239d70..d54bc500af80 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/trace/debugging.rst
>>> +++ b/Documentation/trace/debugging.rst
>>> @@ -136,6 +136,8 @@ kernel, so only the same kernel is guaranteed to 
>>> work if the mapping is
>>>   preserved. Switching to a different kernel version may find a 
>>> different
>>>   layout and mark the buffer as invalid.
>>> +NB: Both the mapped address and size must be page aligned for the 
>>> architecture.
>>> +
>>>   Using trace_printk() in the boot instance
>>>   -----------------------------------------
>>>   By default, the content of trace_printk() goes into the top level 
>>> tracing
>>> diff --git a/kernel/trace/trace.c b/kernel/trace/trace.c
>>> index de6d7f0e6206..de9c237e5826 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/trace/trace.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/trace/trace.c
>>> @@ -10788,6 +10788,18 @@ __init static void enable_instances(void)
>>>           }
>>>           if (start) {
>>> +            /* Start and size must be page aligned */
>>> +            if (start & ~PAGE_MASK) {
>>> +                pr_warn("Tracing: mapping start addr %lx is not page 
>>> aligned\n",
>>> +                    (unsigned long)start);
>>> +                continue;
>>> +            }
>>> +            if (size & ~PAGE_MASK) {
>>> +                pr_warn("Tracing: mapping size %lx is not page 
>>> aligned\n",
>>> +                    (unsigned long)size);
>>> +                continue;
>>> +            }
>>
>> Better use %pa for printing physical address as on 32-bit systems
>> phys_addr_t may be unsigned long long:
>>
>>     pr_warn("Tracing: mapping size %pa is not page aligned\n", &size);
>>
>>> +
>>>               addr = map_pages(start, size);
>>>               if (addr) {
>>>                   pr_info("Tracing: mapped boot instance %s at 
>>> physical memory %pa of size 0x%lx\n",
>>> -- 
>>> 2.47.2
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-01 22:58 [PATCH v5 0/4] tracing: Clean up persistent ring buffer code Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 22:58 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] tracing: Enforce the persistent ring buffer to be page aligned Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02  9:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-02 14:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02 15:01     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-04-02 15:03       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2025-04-01 22:58 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] tracing: Have reserve_mem use phys_to_virt() and separate from memmap buffer Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02  9:24   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-02 14:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 22:58 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] tracing: Use vmap_page_range() to map memmap ring buffer Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02 16:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-02 16:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02 17:03       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02 17:14         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02 17:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-02 17:40             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-02 17:46               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-04-01 22:58 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] ring-buffer: Use flush_kernel_vmap_range() over flush_dcache_folio() Steven Rostedt

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