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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: lkp@01.org, xiaolong.ye@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, serge@hallyn.com, tycho@docker.com,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
	christian.brauner@mailbox.org, vgoyal@redhat.com,
	amir73il@gmail.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:33:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bf08b3e-27f4-3592-d5e2-a823401ac644@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10fb9c1b-e9af-336c-9a1b-cf95259cfaf3@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 6/22/2017 1:12 PM, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 06/22/2017 03:59 PM, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>> On 6/22/2017 11:59 AM, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>> This series of patches primary goal is to enable file capabilities
>>> in user namespaces without affecting the file capabilities that are
>>> effective on the host. This is to prevent that any unprivileged user
>>> on the host maps his own uid to root in a private namespace, writes
>>> the xattr, and executes the file with privilege on the host.
>>>
>>> We achieve this goal by writing extended attributes with a different
>>> name when a user namespace is used. If for example the root user
>>> in a user namespace writes the security.capability xattr, the name
>>> of the xattr that is actually written is encoded as
>>> security.capability@uid=1000 for root mapped to uid 1000 on the host.
>> You need to identify the instance of the user namespace for
>> this to work right on a system with multiple user namespaces.
>> If I have a shared filesystem mounted in two different user
>> namespaces a change by one will affect the other.
>
> Two different user namespaces with different uid mappings will not affect each other.

But two namespaces with the same uid mapping will, and I
don't think this meets the principle of least astonishment.
I also object to associating capabilities with UIDs. The
whole point of capabilities is to disassociate UID 0 from
privilege. What you've done is explicitly associate a UID
with the ability to have privilege. That's an architectural
regression.

>
> If root in userns1 mapped to uid 1000 (size 1000) writes security.capability, it will write security.capability@uid=1000 into the fs.
> If root in userns2 mapped to uid 2000 (size 1000) writes security.capability, it will write security.capability@uid=2000 into the fs.
>
> Neither of the two will see each other's security.capability, but each will see their own 'security.capability'.
>
> Assume now userns1 has a size of 2000, so overlapping with userns2, it will now see userns2's security.capability@uid=1000 as well as its own 'security.capability'. security.capability@uid=1000 (of userns2) in userns1 will not have an effect on effective file capabilities.
>
>> ... unless I'm missing something obvious about namespace behavior.
>>
>>> When listing the xattrs on the host, the existing security.capability
>>> as well as the security.capability@uid=1000 will be shown. Inside the
>>> namespace only 'security.capability', with the value of
>>> security.capability@uid=1000, is visible.
>>>
>>> To maintain compatibility with existing behavior, the value of
>>> security.capability of the host is shown inside the user namespace
>>> once the security.capability of the user namespace has been removed
>>> (which really removes security.capability@uid=1000). Writing to
>>> an extended attribute inside a user namespace effectively hides the
>>> extended attribute of the host.
>>>
>>> The general framework that is established with these patches can
>>> be applied to other extended attributes as well, such as security.ima
>>> or the 'trusted.' prefix . Another extended attribute that needed to
>>> be enabled here is 'security.selinux,' since otherwise this extended
>>> attribute would not be shown anymore inside a user namespace.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>     Stefan & Serge
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan Berger (3):
>>>    xattr: Enable security.capability in user namespaces
>>>    Enable capabilities of files from shared filesystem
>>>    Enable security.selinux in user namespaces
>>>
>>>   fs/xattr.c               | 472 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>   security/commoncap.c     |  36 +++-
>>>   security/selinux/hooks.c |   9 +-
>>>   3 files changed, 501 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-22 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-22 18:59 Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 18:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] xattr: Enable security.capability in user namespaces Stefan Berger
2017-06-24 21:02   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-24 21:02   ` [PATCH] xattr: fix kstrdup.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2017-06-22 18:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] Enable capabilities of files from shared filesystem Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 18:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] Enable security.selinux in user namespaces Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 20:30   ` Stephen Smalley
2017-06-23 23:41     ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 19:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities Casey Schaufler
2017-06-22 20:12   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 20:33     ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2017-06-22 21:03       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 21:09       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-22 22:40         ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-22 23:07           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-22 23:29 ` James Bottomley
2017-06-22 23:32   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-22 23:36   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23  0:13     ` James Bottomley
2017-06-23  1:19       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-23 18:39         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23  7:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-23 16:00   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 16:16     ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-23 16:30       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 16:53         ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-23 17:01           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-23 18:32               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:07         ` James Bottomley
2017-06-23 17:20           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:38           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 18:34             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 18:08       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 18:35         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 20:30           ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-23 23:09           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 23:51             ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-28  5:41   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-28  7:18     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-28 14:04       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-28 14:28       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 20:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2017-06-23 20:17   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 20:36     ` Vivek Goyal
2017-06-23 20:51       ` Serge E. Hallyn

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