From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933492AbXGYQJU (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:09:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764290AbXGYQJF (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:09:05 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]:30262 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1763914AbXGYQJD (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:09:03 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=IqPsZfhQcXDlFdAqJikCJ1+GhJEHoXZWHbZkogqLJHLjCNyoHH/nQ4Uegis8x55w6ok0jhKCpRey3vu7DSHOfyMqK6CWfQ5IcbhX/eeRuNhpbAQK4v7mQ+ACvbr+VrHqXdG+tTDkN2YURQe6CVsIPVtcQ9p837tzyeXfG1yPAk4= Message-ID: <2c0942db0707250909r435fef75sa5cbf8b1c766000b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:09:01 -0700 From: "Ray Lee" To: "Nick Piggin" Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Cc: "Eric St-Laurent" , "Rene Herman" , "Jesper Juhl" , "Andrew Morton" , "ck list" , "Ingo Molnar" , "Paul Jackson" , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <46A6E1A1.4010508@yahoo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070710013152.ef2cd200.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <9a8748490707231608h453eefffx68b9c391897aba70@mail.gmail.com> <46A57068.3070701@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707232153j3670ef31kae3907dff1a24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <46A58B49.3050508@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707240915h56e007e3l9110e24a065f2e73@mail.gmail.com> <46A6CC56.6040307@yahoo.com.au> <46A6D7D2.4050708@gmail.com> <1185341449.7105.53.camel@perkele> <46A6E1A1.4010508@yahoo.com.au> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e019f1189867dc04 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hey Eric, On 7/24/07, Nick Piggin wrote: > Eric St-Laurent wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-25-07 at 06:55 +0200, Rene Herman wrote: > > > > > >>It certainly doesn't run for me ever. Always kind of a "that's not the > >>point" comment but I just keep wondering whenever I see anyone complain > >>about updatedb why the _hell_ they are running it in the first place. If > >>anyone who never uses "locate" for anything simply disable updatedb, the > >>problem will for a large part be solved. > >> > >>This not just meant as a cheap comment; while I can think of a few similar > >>loads even on the desktop (scanning a browser cache, a media player indexing > >>a large amount of media files, ...) I've never heard of problems _other_ > >>than updatedb. So just junk that crap and be happy. > > > > > >>From my POV there's two different problems discussed recently: > > > > - updatedb type of workloads that add tons of inodes and dentries in the > > slab caches which of course use the pagecache. > > > > - streaming large files (read or copying) that fill the pagecache with > > useless used-once data No, there's a third case which I find the most annoying. I have multiple working sets, the sum of which won't fit into RAM. When I finish one, the kernel had time to preemptively swap back in the other, and yet it didn't. So, I sit around, twiddling my thumbs, waiting for my music player to come back to life, or thunderbird, or...