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From: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
To: "Michael Buesch" <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de,
	"Daniel Walker" <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux@bohmer.net,
	jonathan@jonmasters.org, matthias.kaehlcke@gmail.com,
	kjwinchester@gmail.com, mbuesch@freenet.de,
	"John Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:12:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c0942db0712131712t6f30ab88g48cc1af27a7a6ce9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712140143.16451.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Dec 13, 2007 4:43 PM, Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote:
> On Friday 14 December 2007 01:05:00 Ray Lee wrote:
> > Okay, I had to modprobe rfkill-input and rfkill by hand, didn't
> > realize that. Hopefully that'll be automatic soon. Regardless, upon
> > doing so, and loading ssb and b43, it sees my card, but is still not
> > fully functional. iwconfig sees:
> >
> > lo        no wireless extensions.
> > eth0      no wireless extensions.
> > tun0      no wireless extensions.
> > eth1      no wireless extensions.
> > wlan0_rename  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""
> >           Mode:Managed  Channel:0  Access Point: Not-Associated
> >           Tx-Power=0 dBm
> >           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B
> >           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
> >           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
> >           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
> >
> > (eth0 is ethernet, eth1 doesn't exist -- usually it's the wireless.)
> >
> > `ifconfig` doesn't see eth1 or wlan0_rename.
> >
> > What else might I be doing wrong?
>
> I don't know. Try ifconfig -a
> Or tell udev to not crap up your device names.

Uhm, I haven't had to tell udev to not crap up any of my *other*
devices, why is b43 special? I'm using an up-to-date userspace, so I'm
not going to be the only one hitting this problem. And ifconfig -a
does indeed show it, sorry about that. But my understanding is that
udev renames interfaces based on MAC address, so I wouldn't suspect
udev to be at fault here.

Digging a little farther into it, it looks like b43 is barfing partway
through init as the firmware file it's looking for has changed names.
Perhaps that's the issue. I'll take a longer look at this all
tomorrow.

> > Regardless, perhaps scheduling
> > bcm43xx for removal in 2.6.26 is a bit premature.
>
> Oh come on. b43 is more than a year old now. How long should we wait?
> Two or three? Forever?

Well, it only hit the main kernel October 10th. That means no final
point release of the kernel.org kernel has even had it included! So
testing-wise, you still haven't hit the hordes yet. Scheduling a
removal of bcm43xx (as painful as that code is [*]), seems either
premature or very optimistic. So, how about scheduling the removal
once you get a feel for the bug reports that'll come in once 2.6.24 is
released.

   [*] Yeah, even as a user the code is painful. It *still* locks my
keyboard if I happen to disable the wireless while it's scanning. The
sooner bcm43xx is dead, the better. But b43 is quite obviously not a
full replacement for everyone.

I don't mean to come off harsh, I know you put an amazing amount of
work into both b43 and bcm43xx, and I'm thankful for that. But
requiring the end-user to go scan bcm43xx-dev archives to find out
that the b43 module isn't correctly autoloading all of its
dependencies is a sign that the code still hasn't had a lot of
testing, no?

In the meantime I'll keep plugging away at trying to figure out what's wrong.

Ray

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-14  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20071213003023.117964080@mvista.com>
2007-12-12  8:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] ps3: vuart: fix error path locking Daniel Walker
2007-12-13  2:00   ` Geoff Levand
2007-12-19  1:10     ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-19  1:54       ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-19  3:04       ` Geoff Levand
2007-12-20 19:32         ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-20 20:06           ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-20 20:13             ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-12  8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] driver base: memory: semaphore to mutex Daniel Walker
2007-12-12  8:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem " Daniel Walker
2007-12-13  0:48   ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13  1:17     ` Ray Lee
2007-12-13 13:45       ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14  0:05         ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14  0:43           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14  0:55             ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-14 10:45               ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14  1:12             ` Ray Lee [this message]
2007-12-14 10:49               ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 11:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 11:39                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 12:16                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 12:31                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 12:53                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:08                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 16:06                             ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:49                               ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 18:01                                 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 18:11                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:47                                     ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 18:22                                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 18:45                                     ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 19:05                                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 19:25                                         ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 19:38                                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 19:55                                             ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 20:13                                               ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 21:39                                                 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 12:59                         ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2007-12-14 13:04                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15  0:51                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15  0:58                               ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15  1:59                                 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15  2:27                                   ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15  4:37                                     ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15  4:39                                       ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15  7:18                                         ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 12:38                                           ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17  2:17                                             ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17  6:52                                               ` Larry Finger
2007-12-17  7:17                                                 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17  9:49                                                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 10:15                                                     ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 10:35                                                       ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 22:04                                                         ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 22:45                                                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 23:12                                                             ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 23:18                                                               ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 23:27                                                                 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-18  1:16                                                   ` Larry Finger
2007-12-18  2:34                                                     ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-19  2:12                                                       ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-19  8:11                                                         ` Larry Finger
     [not found]                                                           ` <200712191046.54147.mb@bu3sch.de>
2007-12-19 13:48                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 10:57                               ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 23:18                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 23:27                                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-16  2:30                                     ` Larry Finger
2007-12-16 11:13                                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-16 13:56                                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-16 14:35                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-16 14:18                                         ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-14  2:09             ` Larry Finger
2007-12-14 10:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:14               ` John W. Linville
2007-12-14 14:40                 ` stefano.brivio
2007-12-14 16:27                   ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:45                     ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:59                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 17:22                         ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 17:59                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:38                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15  1:25                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 21:43                               ` John W. Linville
2007-12-15 23:26                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-16  3:20                                   ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2007-12-16  9:22                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 11:23                                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13  1:20     ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 10:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-13 11:11         ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 14:23           ` John W. Linville

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