From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0DD52E3AEA for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2026 19:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1774294746; cv=none; b=RqAb4OWGUZQtCb8ZGyT93WhaxBII8UVM4clLP89kU4D/N287xREkv2RFmWdmbCQKFQCmq5d3V8xipqpAV+g6CMw8aZqnARx4wTFSwJqh4gIAGSMULbVeL2vyFCWpCX3ZO9rQjhcBGHER7UFwlRUWlktrmZ+qsUGzwFbChuZBPdo= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1774294746; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Eei5R6PJMtTTG6JSryoc1eT2IJV07EOeVe661ejNU88=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=ByI78HNxtoJZPNMe3h6H2ntWH8rF/rtfM0Dm3zE4u+6V8w5PCW/POJLNkTrSSEoneIX64yvwu0+y3Er0dST3f+Mq7vW8QjBEEpyIvVWrDjiRV2YZ/mVXw1rbRkdHkhz7dLIV29LjFMyhMqYPt1CwV4C77vVPOOUwLzNogc69+7Q= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=oJ+d1IE2; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="oJ+d1IE2" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B858C4CEF7; Mon, 23 Mar 2026 19:39:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1774294746; bh=Eei5R6PJMtTTG6JSryoc1eT2IJV07EOeVe661ejNU88=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=oJ+d1IE2lXshEQKbMZhoPSOGCUt44s/Q+1tvZ+pwbF28WdPZV12HTdbsCwwK8IkTW vRS4G7GYytxBH9Ov3Cegw6yJU/cqaWSPjW9vuq/OdoPRWlKp+EIj0RVWPStMhPIJs3 7ZD/5ETf152Nmat+zq10RqhYHNHJa9SeQ+F95HM7H/8j9FMmE9WtVk73l1GAf1NHvq ytxpSdDxgYp6500C28PceXubnbYbtSiaD+CLNA8N1myE2OPTM66ZxqqtOQtHieonRI SD3arytyjyI2+q1RMYiEXdxmlDoUdXbgbNI3M2MSOl6QB0R9TQ+/IRnq3Xk7XuvVCs y4n7C5Zd4ankQ== Message-ID: <2cfa402b-319b-4cea-a2fc-1cefab76c701@kernel.org> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 20:39:01 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/7] mm: switch deferred split shrinker to list_lru To: Johannes Weiner Cc: Andrew Morton , Shakeel Butt , Yosry Ahmed , Zi Yan , "Liam R. Howlett" , Usama Arif , Kiryl Shutsemau , Dave Chinner , Roman Gushchin , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20260312205321.638053-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org> <20260312205321.638053-8-hannes@cmpxchg.org> <61d86249-cd89-4e99-99d8-ab7c72e95f34@kernel.org> From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=david@kernel.org; keydata= xsFNBFXLn5EBEAC+zYvAFJxCBY9Tr1xZgcESmxVNI/0ffzE/ZQOiHJl6mGkmA1R7/uUpiCjJ dBrn+lhhOYjjNefFQou6478faXE6o2AhmebqT4KiQoUQFV4R7y1KMEKoSyy8hQaK1umALTdL QZLQMzNE74ap+GDK0wnacPQFpcG1AE9RMq3aeErY5tujekBS32jfC/7AnH7I0v1v1TbbK3Gp XNeiN4QroO+5qaSr0ID2sz5jtBLRb15RMre27E1ImpaIv2Jw8NJgW0k/D1RyKCwaTsgRdwuK Kx/Y91XuSBdz0uOyU/S8kM1+ag0wvsGlpBVxRR/xw/E8M7TEwuCZQArqqTCmkG6HGcXFT0V9 PXFNNgV5jXMQRwU0O/ztJIQqsE5LsUomE//bLwzj9IVsaQpKDqW6TAPjcdBDPLHvriq7kGjt WhVhdl0qEYB8lkBEU7V2Yb+SYhmhpDrti9Fq1EsmhiHSkxJcGREoMK/63r9WLZYI3+4W2rAc UucZa4OT27U5ZISjNg3Ev0rxU5UH2/pT4wJCfxwocmqaRr6UYmrtZmND89X0KigoFD/XSeVv jwBRNjPAubK9/k5NoRrYqztM9W6sJqrH8+UWZ1Idd/DdmogJh0gNC0+N42Za9yBRURfIdKSb B3JfpUqcWwE7vUaYrHG1nw54pLUoPG6sAA7Mehl3nd4pZUALHwARAQABzS5EYXZpZCBIaWxk ZW5icmFuZCAoQ3VycmVudCkgPGRhdmlkQGtlcm5lbC5vcmc+wsGQBBMBCAA6AhsDBQkmWAik AgsJBBUKCQgCFgICHgUCF4AWIQQb2cqtc1xMOkYN/MpN3hD3AP+DWgUCaYJt/AIZAQAKCRBN 3hD3AP+DWriiD/9BLGEKG+N8L2AXhikJg6YmXom9ytRwPqDgpHpVg2xdhopoWdMRXjzOrIKD g4LSnFaKneQD0hZhoArEeamG5tyo32xoRsPwkbpIzL0OKSZ8G6mVbFGpjmyDLQCAxteXCLXz ZI0VbsuJKelYnKcXWOIndOrNRvE5eoOfTt2XfBnAapxMYY2IsV+qaUXlO63GgfIOg8RBaj7x 3NxkI3rV0SHhI4GU9K6jCvGghxeS1QX6L/XI9mfAYaIwGy5B68kF26piAVYv/QZDEVIpo3t7 /fjSpxKT8plJH6rhhR0epy8dWRHk3qT5tk2P85twasdloWtkMZ7FsCJRKWscm1BLpsDn6EQ4 jeMHECiY9kGKKi8dQpv3FRyo2QApZ49NNDbwcR0ZndK0XFo15iH708H5Qja/8TuXCwnPWAcJ DQoNIDFyaxe26Rx3ZwUkRALa3iPcVjE0//TrQ4KnFf+lMBSrS33xDDBfevW9+Dk6IISmDH1R HFq2jpkN+FX/PE8eVhV68B2DsAPZ5rUwyCKUXPTJ/irrCCmAAb5Jpv11S7hUSpqtM/6oVESC 3z/7CzrVtRODzLtNgV4r5EI+wAv/3PgJLlMwgJM90Fb3CB2IgbxhjvmB1WNdvXACVydx55V7 LPPKodSTF29rlnQAf9HLgCphuuSrrPn5VQDaYZl4N/7zc2wcWM7BTQRVy5+RARAA59fefSDR 9nMGCb9LbMX+TFAoIQo/wgP5XPyzLYakO+94GrgfZjfhdaxPXMsl2+o8jhp/hlIzG56taNdt VZtPp3ih1AgbR8rHgXw1xwOpuAd5lE1qNd54ndHuADO9a9A0vPimIes78Hi1/yy+ZEEvRkHk /kDa6F3AtTc1m4rbbOk2fiKzzsE9YXweFjQvl9p+AMw6qd/iC4lUk9g0+FQXNdRs+o4o6Qvy iOQJfGQ4UcBuOy1IrkJrd8qq5jet1fcM2j4QvsW8CLDWZS1L7kZ5gT5EycMKxUWb8LuRjxzZ 3QY1aQH2kkzn6acigU3HLtgFyV1gBNV44ehjgvJpRY2cC8VhanTx0dZ9mj1YKIky5N+C0f21 zvntBqcxV0+3p8MrxRRcgEtDZNav+xAoT3G0W4SahAaUTWXpsZoOecwtxi74CyneQNPTDjNg azHmvpdBVEfj7k3p4dmJp5i0U66Onmf6mMFpArvBRSMOKU9DlAzMi4IvhiNWjKVaIE2Se9BY FdKVAJaZq85P2y20ZBd08ILnKcj7XKZkLU5FkoA0udEBvQ0f9QLNyyy3DZMCQWcwRuj1m73D sq8DEFBdZ5eEkj1dCyx+t/ga6x2rHyc8Sl86oK1tvAkwBNsfKou3v+jP/l14a7DGBvrmlYjO 59o3t6inu6H7pt7OL6u6BQj7DoMAEQEAAcLBfAQYAQgAJgIbDBYhBBvZyq1zXEw6Rg38yk3e EPcA/4NaBQJonNqrBQkmWAihAAoJEE3eEPcA/4NaKtMQALAJ8PzprBEXbXcEXwDKQu+P/vts IfUb1UNMfMV76BicGa5NCZnJNQASDP/+bFg6O3gx5NbhHHPeaWz/VxlOmYHokHodOvtL0WCC 8A5PEP8tOk6029Z+J+xUcMrJClNVFpzVvOpb1lCbhjwAV465Hy+NUSbbUiRxdzNQtLtgZzOV Zw7jxUCs4UUZLQTCuBpFgb15bBxYZ/BL9MbzxPxvfUQIPbnzQMcqtpUs21CMK2PdfCh5c4gS sDci6D5/ZIBw94UQWmGpM/O1ilGXde2ZzzGYl64glmccD8e87OnEgKnH3FbnJnT4iJchtSvx yJNi1+t0+qDti4m88+/9IuPqCKb6Stl+s2dnLtJNrjXBGJtsQG/sRpqsJz5x1/2nPJSRMsx9 5YfqbdrJSOFXDzZ8/r82HgQEtUvlSXNaXCa95ez0UkOG7+bDm2b3s0XahBQeLVCH0mw3RAQg r7xDAYKIrAwfHHmMTnBQDPJwVqxJjVNr7yBic4yfzVWGCGNE4DnOW0vcIeoyhy9vnIa3w1uZ 3iyY2Nsd7JxfKu1PRhCGwXzRw5TlfEsoRI7V9A8isUCoqE2Dzh3FvYHVeX4Us+bRL/oqareJ CIFqgYMyvHj7Q06kTKmauOe4Nf0l0qEkIuIzfoLJ3qr5UyXc2hLtWyT9Ir+lYlX9efqh7mOY qIws/H2t In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/20/26 17:02, Johannes Weiner wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 08:21:21AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: >>> >>> I remember you raising this in the objcg + reparenting patches. There >>> are a few more instances of >>> >>> rcu_read_lock() >>> foo = folio_memcg() >>> ... >>> rcu_read_unlock() >>> >>> in other parts of the code not touched by these patches here, so the >>> first pattern is a more universal encapsulation. >>> >>> Let me look into this. Would you be okay with a follow-up that covers >>> the others as well? >> >> Of course :) If list_lru lock helpers would be the right thing to do, it >> might be better placed in this series. > > I'm playing around with the below. But there are a few things that > seem suboptimal: I like that as well (and could even be applied on top of the other proposal later). > > - We need a local @memcg, which makes sites that just pass > folio_memcg() somewhere else fatter. More site LOC on average. The LOC is really mostly just from the helper functions IIUC. > - Despite being more verbose, it communicates less. rcu_read_lock() > is universally understood, folio_memcg_foo() is cryptic. begin/end is pretty clear IMHO. Not sure about the "cryptic" part. Taste differs I guess. :) > - It doesn't cover similar accessors with the same lifetime rules, > like folio_lruvec(), folio_memcg_check() I think it gets inetresting once the RCU would implicitly protect other stuff as well. And that would be my point: from the code alone it's not quite clear what the RCU actually protects and what new code should be using. But I won't push for that if you/others prefer to spell out the RCU stuff :) Thanks for playing with the code! -- Cheers, David