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From: Coly Li <colyli@suse.de>
To: Eric Wheeler <bcache@lists.ewheeler.net>
Cc: kungf <wings.wyang@gmail.com>,
	kent.overstreet@gmail.com, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bcache: add REQ_FUA to avoid data lost in writeback mode
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 18:55:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d085823-57ac-dba9-6d2e-1cf01c949875@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a728329-1b12-0ebf-21a4-058ef6f65ead@suse.de>

On 2019/12/3 10:21 下午, Coly Li wrote:
> On 2019/12/3 3:34 上午, Eric Wheeler wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, Coly Li wrote:
>>> On 2019/12/2 6:24 下午, kungf wrote:
>>>> data may lost when in the follow scene of writeback mode:
>>>> 1. client write data1 to bcache
>>>> 2. client fdatasync
>>>> 3. bcache flush cache set and backing device
>>>> if now data1 was not writed back to backing, it was only guaranteed safe in cache.
>>>> 4.then cache writeback data1 to backing with only REQ_OP_WRITE
>>>> So data1 was not guaranteed in non-volatile storage,  it may lost if  power interruption 
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Do you encounter such problem in real work load ? With bcache journal, I
>>> don't see the possibility of data lost with your description.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong.
>>>
>>> Coly Li
>>
>> If this does become necessary, then we should have a sysfs or superblock 
>> flag to disable FUA for those with RAID BBUs.
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> I doubt it is necessary to add FUA tag for all writeback bios, it is
> unnecessary. If power failure happens after dirty data written to
> backing device and the bkey turns into clean, a following read request
> will go to cache device because the LBA can be indexed no matter it is
> dirty or clean. Unless the bkey is invalidated from the B+tree, read
> will always go to cache device firstly in writeback mode. If a power
> failure happens before the cached bkey turns from dirty to clean, just
> an extra writeback bio flushed from cache device to backing device with
> identical data. Comparing the FUA tag for all writeback bios (it will be
> really slow), the extra writeback IOs after a power failure is more
> acceptable to me.

Hi Eric,

I come to realize what the problem is. Yes there is potential
possibility.With FUA the writeback performance will be very low, it is
quite tricky....

Coly Li

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-04 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-02 10:24 kungf
2019-12-02 11:08 ` Coly Li
2019-12-02 19:34   ` Eric Wheeler
2019-12-03 14:21     ` Coly Li
2019-12-04 10:55       ` Coly Li [this message]
2019-12-06  0:04       ` Eric Wheeler
2019-12-03 11:39   ` kungf
     [not found]   ` <CAMo46+q-usqgwHWhk2mcKMvK9yMY2kfN-t10wyqm+pv8L0HqYA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-03 14:09     ` Coly Li

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