From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: detect uninitialized xenbus in xenbus_init
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 06:16:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d6a1818-e6d0-eb5d-5319-e0cd2e071b03@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2111181226460.1412361@ubuntu-linux-20-04-desktop>
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On 18.11.21 22:00, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, Juergen Gross wrote:
>> On 18.11.21 09:47, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 18.11.2021 06:32, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>> On 18.11.21 03:37, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>>>> --- a/drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe.c
>>>>> @@ -951,6 +951,28 @@ static int __init xenbus_init(void)
>>>>> err = hvm_get_parameter(HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN, &v);
>>>>> if (err)
>>>>> goto out_error;
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * Return error on an invalid value.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * Uninitialized hvm_params are zero and return no error.
>>>>> + * Although it is theoretically possible to have
>>>>> + * HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN set to zero on purpose, in reality it
>>>>> is
>>>>> + * not zero when valid. If zero, it means that Xenstore hasn't
>>>>> + * been properly initialized. Instead of attempting to map a
>>>>> + * wrong guest physical address return error.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + if (v == 0) {
>>>>
>>>> Make this "if (v == ULONG_MAX || v== 0)" instead?
>>>> This would result in the same err on a new and an old hypervisor
>>>> (assuming we switch the hypervisor to init params with ~0UL).
>
> Sure, I can do that
>
>
>>>>> + err = -ENOENT;
>>>>> + goto out_error;
>>>>> + }
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * ULONG_MAX is invalid on 64-bit because is INVALID_PFN.
>>>>> + * On 32-bit return error to avoid truncation.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + if (v >= ULONG_MAX) {
>>>>> + err = -EINVAL;
>>>>> + goto out_error;
>>>>> + }
>>>>
>>>> Does it make sense to continue the system running in case of
>>>> truncation? This would be a 32-bit guest with more than 16TB of RAM
>>>> and the Xen tools decided to place the Xenstore ring page above the
>>>> 16TB boundary. This is a completely insane scenario IMO.
>>>>
>>>> A proper panic() in this case would make diagnosis of that much
>>>> easier (me having doubts that this will ever be hit, though).
>>>
>>> While I agree panic() may be an option here (albeit I'm not sure why
>>> that would be better than trying to cope with 0 and hence without
>>
>> I could imagine someone wanting to run a guest without Xenstore access,
>> which BTW will happen in case of a guest created by the hypervisor at
>> boot time.
>>
>>> xenbus), I'd like to point out that the amount of RAM assigned to a
>>> guest is unrelated to the choice of GFNs for the various "magic"
>>> items.
>>
>> Yes, but this would still be a major tools problem which probably
>> would render the whole guest rather unusable.
>
> First let's distinguish between an error due to "hvm_param not
> initialized" and an error due to more serious conditions, such as "pfn
> above max".
>
> "hvm_param not initialized" could mean v == 0 (as it would be today) or
> v == ~0UL (if we change Xen to initialize all hvm_param to ~0UL). I
> don't think we want to panic in these cases as they are not actually
> true erroneous configurations. We should just stop trying to initialize
> xenstore and continue with the rest.
>
>
> The "pfn above max" case could happen if v is greater than the max pfn.
> This is a true error in the configuration because the toolstack should
> know that the guest is 32-bit so it should give it a pfn that the guest
I don't think so. All x86 PVH/HVM guests start booting in 32-bit mode.
> is able to use. As Jan wrote in another email, for 32-bit the actual
> limit depends on the physical address bits but actually Linux has never
> been able to cope with a pfn > ULONG_MAX on 32-bit because xen_store_gfn
> is defined as unsigned long. So Linux 32-bit has been truncating
> HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN all along.
The question is whether the number of physical address bits as presented
to the guest is always >= 44. If not the actual limit is less than
ULONG_MAX. Other than that you are right: a PFN larger than a 32-bit
ULONG_MAX will be truncated by a 32-bit guest.
> There is also an argument that depending on kconfig Linux 32-bit might
> only be able to handle addresses < 4G, so I don't think the toolstack
> can assume that a 32-bit guest is able to cope with HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN
>> ULONG_MAX. If Linux is 32-bit and HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN > ULONG_MAX,
> even if HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN < address_bits_max I think it would be fair
> to still consider it an error, but I can see it could be argued either
> way. Certainly if HVM_PARAM_STORE_PFN > address_bits_max is an error.
Right. The tools should NEVER put the frame above 4G for a non-PV guest.
> In any case, I think it is still better for Linux to stop trying to
> initialize Xenstore but continue with the rest because there is a bunch
> of other useful things Linux can do without it. Panic should only be the
> last resort if there is nothing else to do. In this case we haven't even
> initialized the service and the service is not essential, at least it is
> not essential in certain ARM setups.
>
>
> So in conclusion, I think this patch should:
> - if v == 0 return error (uninitialized)
> - if v == ~0ULL (INVALID_PFN) return error (uinitialized)
> - if v >= ~0UL (32-bit) return error (even if this case could be made to
> work for v < max_address_bits depending on kconfig)
>
> Which leads to something like:
>
> /* uninitialized */
> if (v == 0 || v == ~0ULL) {
> err = -ENOENT;
> goto out_error;
> }
> /*
> * Avoid truncation on 32-bit.
> * TODO: handle addresses >= 4G
> */
> if ( v >= ~0UL ) {
> err = -EINVAL;
> goto out_error;
I think at least in this case a pr_err("...") should be added.
Silent failure is not nice.
Juergen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-19 5:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-17 2:11 Stefano Stabellini
2021-11-17 7:41 ` Jan Beulich
2021-11-18 2:37 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-11-18 5:32 ` Juergen Gross
2021-11-18 8:47 ` Jan Beulich
2021-11-18 8:53 ` Juergen Gross
2021-11-18 21:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-11-18 22:24 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-11-19 8:24 ` Jan Beulich
2021-11-19 5:16 ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2021-11-18 8:40 ` Jan Beulich
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