From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B41BC4363A for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 00:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080C5207F7 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 00:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="JmthtUqp" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2442558AbgJ0Axg (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:53:36 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-f67.google.com ([209.85.218.67]:43275 "EHLO mail-ej1-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2410206AbgJ0Axf (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:53:35 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-f67.google.com with SMTP id k3so16858204ejj.10; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:53:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ruMA5nzaXoeFAnvA+h4f1K52oHp0phNfZLmBzayTOIk=; b=JmthtUqp1yozHGA/fnwa9FuqdjTxxtkEpg3acmm0Il/MCXUebcZFpS9yE9absYSFcI Ojo2ceuQQoFSUcNXYphdioA3WhEtSO04LW6P/KjdqkpyizpUYQLsFm/Cgm6nevNY/UPi 2QhtvSumIXJXZJuHeXApB5gFHC9PSe+Cnn+H6fuTYgng5Zd4pYh1HEDtsTEMfSa4qJwd G96YZY7KFqE7rCadfbNGPVc4esXIVv5BeZbWIWwk+USFxOmUnJ/qd5tDpuMHeewMJBO9 aIcY8W1tsH5jYl2K8dQhx/rJ8KGC3TCRLzsgCpGklvMmxpP7h8226Yj6XHnuqOejhtJu fhrw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ruMA5nzaXoeFAnvA+h4f1K52oHp0phNfZLmBzayTOIk=; b=dZdp1m3t7SquNSxhGmDcVCy33dbFxNpCU/5Hip1G4jEJo/ksQ4a+d5FpnjLhZFjxQh ODbx8aL1aubx4A+2QPptnkc0fnJmvMEzO7PVLKvlr0WnZ47de+sEr5+jMcjFogAfYtis pNcL04Lz9C5N1hNTY6YhFt9QTHUpcsoKj0dJjiRyGCKN65DVINMzbt6ebdwkS7o/swao QV/LVG3UGqZyJjT19XSkANmkYhmLD1Q+SsCCBOtWjn4goTWc8DlWsTD6BT+u+de8Syeh lgAWuYFLN1GLbn4X8afqDh2X95zS8ZHbqUe3S2to2QJNOqZVs5zzTrRbYBROlleUbJ8/ mZ8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532q6uYb1adBfzgRBpYKcjJtA3HXblQ0hRlX0SLA59nyDiSTN5yP ljQ/ZohVUql2heBP7mTPlD85Pkm0ECk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx06IO2Eu2wL0vb2Whkfk7Zz17Tq0S+jdUCxUlEYnjtnSrdrKzV0Jt390n7wGEIc+tESycn3w== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:38d9:: with SMTP id r25mr18927925ejd.8.1603760013287; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.48] (HSI-KBW-46-223-1-197.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de. [46.223.1.197]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 11sm6695921ejy.19.2020.10.26.17.53.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Reiser4 hard lockup To: David Niklas Cc: reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20201025090422.D80F56FB40E1@huitzilopochtli.metztli-it.com> <20201025210758.034aa947@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> From: Edward Shishkin Message-ID: <2e2f8dc4-a48e-f09c-3f41-5dfa7f9a6387@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 01:53:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201025210758.034aa947@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10/26/2020 02:07 AM, David Niklas wrote: > I'll reply to both of you in this email. > > On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 02:04:22 -0700 (PDT) > Metztli Information Technology wrote: >> Niltze, David- >> >> A few observations are in order below: >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Niklas >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> > >> reiser4progs 1.1.x Software Framework Release Number (SFRN) 4.0.1 file >> system utilities should not be used to check/fix media formatted 'a >> priori' in SFRN 4.0.2 and vice-versa. > > Honestly, this is the first time I've heard about a Linux FS having > versioning other than a major one This is because, unlike other Linux file systems, reiser4 is a framework. In vanilla kernel having a filesystem-as-framework is discouraged for ideological reasons. As they explained: "nobody's interested in plugins". A huge monolithic mess without any internal structure - welcome :)