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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 10/13] tpm: authenticate tpm2_pcr_read()
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:25:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <300575957cee207c4191b8bc70219d13d467fdd7.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250323140911.226137-11-nstange@suse.de>

On Sun, 2025-03-23 at 15:09 +0100, Nicolai Stange wrote:
> PCR reads aren't currently authenticated even with
> CONFIG_TCG_TPM2_HMAC=y yet.

The reason being TPM2_PCR_Read can only support an audit session, so it
has even more overhead than the usual HMAC session for something you
don't care about and because no-one relies on plain reads anyway,
relying entities use quotes.

> It is probably desirable though, as e.g. IMA does some PCR reads to
> form the cumulative boot digest subsequently extended into PCR 10 (an
> operation which *is* authenticated).

Could you elaborate on what security properties this adds?  I can't see
any form of attack that could be done by altering the boot aggregate:
either the relying party cares, in which case it will quote the boot
log and arrive at its own value, or it doesn't, in which case the value
in the log is superfluous.

> +		/*
> +		 * Exclusivity is not needed, but set in the
> response.
> +		 * Set it here too, so that the HMAC verification
> +		 * won't fail.
> +		 */
> +		tpm_buf_append_hmac_session(chip, &buf,
> TPM2_SA_AUDIT
> +					    |
> TPM2_SA_AUDIT_EXCLUSIVE,
> +					    NULL, 0);

Exclusivity here requires no other command be unaudited between the
session starting and now.  That means that with the lazy flush scheme
you have a reasonable chance of this being violated and triggering an
error on the command.

Additionally, the response will only have the exclusive flag set if the
above condition (no other unaudited command since session start) is
true, which it might not be.  The problem you're having is that
tpm2_auth_check_hmac_response() uses the command session flags to
calculate the rpHash, which is a useful short cut because for non-audit
sessions they're always the same.  If you want to use audit sessions,
you have to teach it to dig the response session flags out of the
header and use them instead.

Regards,

James


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-23 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-23 14:08 [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] ima: get rid of hard dependency on SHA-1 Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/13] ima: don't expose runtime_measurements for unsupported hashes Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 14:26   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  7:44     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 13:28       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] ima: always create runtime_measurements sysfs file for ima_hash Nicolai Stange
2025-03-24 14:31   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  8:21     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 13:17       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 13:46         ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 14:48           ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/13] ima: invalidate unsupported PCR banks Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 21:18   ` James Bottomley
2025-03-25  1:03     ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-25 15:44       ` James Bottomley
2025-03-26  8:45         ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-24 15:05   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  9:01     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 14:18       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 14:31         ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/13] ima: make SHA1 non-mandatory Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/13] ima: select CRYPTO_SHA256 from Kconfig Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 15:17   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/13] ima: move INVALID_PCR() to ima.h Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/13] tpm: enable bank selection for PCR extend Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 20:41   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26  9:45     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26  1:18   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  9:41     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/13] ima: track the set of PCRs ever extended Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 17:09   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  9:56     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/13] ima: invalidate unsupported PCR banks only once Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/13] tpm: authenticate tpm2_pcr_read() Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 17:25   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2025-03-26  6:34     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 20:35   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/13] ima: introduce ima_pcr_invalidated_banks() helper Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/13] ima: make ima_free_tfm()'s linkage extern Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/13] ima: don't re-invalidate unsupported PCR banks after kexec Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26  1:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] ima: get rid of hard dependency on SHA-1 Mimi Zohar

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