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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Vasiliy Kulikov <segooon@gmail.com>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Chris Frey <cdfrey@foursquare.net>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: core: fix information leak to userland
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:07:57 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <305211.72066.qm@web180314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1011061441150.28403-100000@netrider.rowland.org>



--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:


> > 
> 
> Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the C standard here to
> consult.  
> However...  Although I'm perfectly willing to believe
> that the standard
> requires fields in a structure to be initialized to 0 if
> they
> aren't mentioned explicitly in the initializer, I'm
> considerably more
> doubtful that it also requires padding to be initialized!

ISTR initialization-to-zero is the standard
behavior defined for all _memory_ that gets
initialized ... not just named fields ...
whether the init is "static", "bss", or not.
> 
> And I certainly wouldn't want to depend on compilers
> _always_ using 
> memset to do this initialization.

Of course not; just rely on init-to-zero, and
let the compiler worry about efficiency. In
some cases memset(); in others, the result
might be as if memset were inlined, so only
a few "write a zero at this address" type
instructions would be needed.
> 
> > There's certainly a fair amount of code I've seen
> > that uses runtime initializers like that, to zero
> > memory.  I can't believe i's _all_ broken! 
> ;)
> 
> Zeroing memory that belongs to a declared field is
> different from 
> zeroing padding bytes.  Maybe what you remember seeing
> is the first and 
> not the second.

I remember seeing both, and at one point looking
at the issue to verify that padding was treated
uniformly (like other memory).  Also, writing code
that relied on zero-initted padding.

- Dave


      reply	other threads:[~2010-11-06 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-06 14:41 Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-06 18:21 ` Alan Stern
2010-11-06 18:30   ` David Brownell
2010-11-06 18:47     ` Alan Stern
2010-11-06 19:07       ` David Brownell [this message]

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