From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
vlevenetz@mm-sol.com, vaibhav.hiremath@linaro.org,
alex.elder@linaro.org, johan@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [Query] Preemption (hogging) of the work handler
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:49:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3133978.fMIgBtHcyP@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160718110134.GB6782@quack2.suse.cz>
On Monday, July 18, 2016 01:01:34 PM Jan Kara wrote:
> On Thu 14-07-16 15:12:51, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 14-07-16, 16:12, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > Exactly. Calling printk() from certain parts of the kernel (like scheduler
> > > code or timer code) has been always unsafe because printk itself uses these
> > > parts and so it can lead to deadlocks. That's why printk_deffered() has
> > > been introduced as you mention below.
> > >
> > > And with sync printk the above deadlock doesn't trigger only by chance - if
> > > there happened to be a waiter on console_sem while we suspend, the same
> > > deadlock would trigger because up(&console_sem) will try to wake him up and
> > > the warning in timekeeping code will cause recursive printk.
> > >
> > > So I think your patch doesn't really address the real issue - it only
> > > works around the particular WARN_ON(timekeeping_enabled) warning but if
> > > there was a different warning in timekeeping code which would trigger, it
> > > has a potential for causing recursive printk deadlock (and indeed we had
> > > such issues previously - see e.g. 504d58745c9c "timer: Fix lock inversion
> > > between hrtimer_bases.lock and scheduler locks").
> > >
> > > So there are IMHO two issues here worth looking at:
> > >
> > > 1) I didn't find how a wakeup would would lead to calling to ktime_get() in
> > > the current upstream kernel or even current RT kernel. Maybe this is a
> > > problem specific to the 3.10 kernel you are using? If yes, we don't have to
> > > do anything for current upstream AFAIU.
> >
> > I haven't checked that earlier, but I see the path in both 3.10 and mainline.
> >
> > vprintk_emit
> > -> wake_up_process
> > -> try_to_wake_up
> > -> ttwu_queue
> > -> ttwu_do_activate
> > -> ttwu_activate
> > -> activate_task
> > -> enqueue_task (sched/core.c)
> > -> enqueue_task_rt (rt.c)
> > -> enqueue_rt_entity
> > -> __enqueue_rt_entity
> > -> inc_rt_tasks
> > -> inc_rt_group
> > -> start_rt_bandwidth
> > -> start_bandwidth_timer
> > -> __hrtimer_start_range_ns
> > -> ktime_get()
>
> Yeah, you are right.
>
> > > If I just missed how wakeup can call into ktime_get() in current upstream,
> > > there is another question:
> > >
> > > 2) Is it OK that printk calls wakeup so late during suspend?
> >
> > To clarify again to everybody, we are talking about the place where all
> > non-boot CPUs are already hot-unplugged and the last running one has
> > disabled interrupts.
> >
> > I believe that we can't do migration at all now, right? What will we get by
> > calling wake_up_process() now anyway ?
>
> As I already wrote to Rafael, wake_up_process() will change the process
> state to TASK_RUNNING so that it can run after we resume from suspend.
>
> But seeing that the same problem is in upstream I guess what Sergey did
> makes more sense if it works for you. If Sergey's fix does not work for you
> due to too many messages being printed during device suspend, then we will
> have to try something else...
Which is exactly my point. :-)
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-18 11:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-01 16:59 Viresh Kumar
2016-07-01 17:22 ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-01 17:28 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-06 18:28 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-06 19:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-06 19:25 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-11 10:26 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-11 15:44 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-11 22:35 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-11 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-11 22:46 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-12 12:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-12 13:02 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-12 13:56 ` Petr Mladek
2016-07-12 14:04 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-12 9:38 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-12 12:52 ` Petr Mladek
2016-07-12 13:12 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-12 17:11 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-12 19:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-12 20:08 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-13 7:00 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-13 12:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-13 12:57 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-13 13:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-12 14:03 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-12 14:12 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-14 23:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-15 13:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-15 15:57 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-12 23:19 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-13 0:18 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-13 5:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-13 15:39 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-13 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-13 23:18 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-13 23:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-07-14 0:55 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-14 1:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-14 1:32 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-14 21:57 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-14 21:55 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-14 14:12 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-14 14:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-14 14:39 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-14 14:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-14 14:55 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-14 22:14 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-14 14:34 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-14 15:03 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-14 22:12 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-18 11:01 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-18 11:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2016-07-29 20:42 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-30 2:12 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-11 19:03 ` Viresh Kumar
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