From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysfs: handle duplicate removal attempts in sysfs_remove_group()
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:43:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3149277.4DLRgh8lWk@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1385375339.2354.28.camel@dabdike>
On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:29:00 AM James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 11:02 -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:43:55AM -0700, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > So, we do have cases where the parent is removed before the child. I
> > > > suppose the parent pci bridge is removed already? AFAICS this
> > > > shouldn't break anything but people did seem to expect the removals to
> > > > be ordered from child to parent. Bjorn, is this something you expect
> > > > to happened?
> > >
> > > I do not expect a PCI bridge to be removed before the devices below
> > > it. We should be removing all the children before removing the parent
> > > bridge.
> > >
> > > But is this related to PCI? I don't see the connection yet. I tried
> >
> > I'm not sure. It was from thunderbolt and nobody is reporting it on
> > other interconnects, so it could be.
> >
> > > to look into this a bit (my notes are at
> > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65281), but I haven't
> > > figured out the big-picture problem yet.
> > >
> > > I don't have warm fuzzies that adding a "have we already removed this"
> > > check is the best resolution, but maybe that's just because I don't
> > > understand the problem.
> >
> > Yeah, the whole thing is sorta pointless. Just issuing removal and
> > continuing on should do, IMHO.
>
> I'd go for that as well. We have huge problems with the _del calls
> because visibility is strict hierarchy and it's not always easy to work
> out who's underneath us.
>
> It's going to be really annoying when refcounting works perfectly for
> objects, so you can just do puts in any order, but you have to have
> _del() called to remove subordinate objects before their parent.
Well, that would be fine and dandy, but device_del() calls bus_remove_device()
which in turn runs device_release_driver() and the order in which *these*
things are done actually matters in general.
So yes, after we have released all of the drivers in question, we can do _del()
right before the final _put() in any order just fine.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-25 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-19 13:09 Mika Westerberg
2013-11-19 13:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-20 6:18 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-20 9:56 ` [PATCH v2] " Mika Westerberg
2013-11-22 15:43 ` [PATCH] " Bjorn Helgaas
2013-11-22 16:02 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-25 10:29 ` James Bottomley
2013-11-25 12:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2013-11-22 22:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-23 22:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-23 22:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-23 23:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-23 23:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-23 23:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-24 1:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-24 15:05 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-25 10:11 ` Mika Westerberg
2013-11-25 10:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 23:51 ` Gwendal Grignou
2013-11-25 12:19 ` [PATCH] ATA: Fix port removal ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-27 1:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-27 4:34 ` Jingoo Han
2013-11-27 18:56 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-24 0:17 ` [PATCH] PCI: Move device_del() from pci_stop_dev() to pci_destroy_dev() Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 4:54 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 4:58 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 11:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 19:48 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 11:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 19:45 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 9:47 ` Mika Westerberg
2013-11-25 11:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 21:59 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-11-25 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-28 0:41 ` Jingoo Han
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