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From: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry.kdev@gmail.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Haibo Xu <Haibo.Xu@arm.com>, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 2/6] arm64: kvm: Introduce MTE VM feature
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 17:15:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <329286e8-a8f3-ea1a-1802-58813255a4a5@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJGHApOCXl811VK3@arm.com>

On 04/05/2021 18:40, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 05:06:41PM +0100, Steven Price wrote:
>> On 28/04/2021 18:07, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> I probably asked already but is the only way to map a standard RAM page
>>> (not device) in stage 2 via the fault handler? One case I had in mind
>>> was something like get_user_pages() but it looks like that one doesn't
>>> call set_pte_at_notify(). There are a few other places where
>>> set_pte_at_notify() is called and these may happen before we got a
>>> chance to fault on stage 2, effectively populating the entry (IIUC). If
>>> that's an issue, we could move the above loop and check closer to the
>>> actual pte setting like kvm_pgtable_stage2_map().
>>
>> The only call sites of kvm_pgtable_stage2_map() are in mmu.c:
>>
>>   * kvm_phys_addr_ioremap() - maps as device in stage 2
>>
>>   * user_mem_abort() - handled above
>>
>>   * kvm_set_spte_handler() - ultimately called from the .change_pte()
>> callback of the MMU notifier
>>
>> So the last one is potentially a problem. It's called via the MMU notifiers
>> in the case of set_pte_at_notify(). The users of that are:
>>
>>   * uprobe_write_opcode(): Allocates a new page and performs a
>> copy_highpage() to copy the data to the new page (which with MTE includes
>> the tags and will copy across the PG_mte_tagged flag).
>>
>>   * write_protect_page() (KSM): Changes the permissions on the PTE but it's
>> still the same page, so nothing to do regarding MTE.
> 
> My concern here is that the VMM had a stage 1 pte but we haven't yet
> faulted in at stage 2 via user_mem_abort(), so we don't have any stage 2
> pte set. write_protect_page() comes in and sets the new stage 2 pte via
> the callback. I couldn't find any check in kvm_pgtable_stage2_map() for
> the old pte, so it will set the new stage 2 pte regardless. A subsequent
> guest read would no longer fault at stage 2.
> 
>>   * replace_page() (KSM): If the page has MTE tags then the MTE version of
>> memcmp_pages() will return false, so the only caller
>> (try_to_merge_one_page()) will never call this on a page with tags.
>>
>>   * wp_page_copy(): This one is more interesting - if we go down the
>> cow_user_page() path with an old page then everything is safe (tags are
>> copied over). The is_zero_pfn() case worries me a bit - a new page is
>> allocated, but I can't instantly see anything to zero out the tags (and set
>> PG_mte_tagged).
> 
> True, I think tag zeroing happens only if we map it as PROT_MTE in the
> VMM.
> 
>>   * migrate_vma_insert_page(): I think migration should be safe as the tags
>> should be copied.
>>
>> So wp_page_copy() looks suspicious.
>>
>> kvm_pgtable_stage2_map() looks like it could be a good place for the checks,
>> it looks like it should work and is probably a more obvious place for the
>> checks.
> 
> That would be my preference. It also matches the stage 1 set_pte_at().
> 
>>> While the set_pte_at() race on the page flags is somewhat clearer, we
>>> may still have a race here with the VMM's set_pte_at() if the page is
>>> mapped as tagged. KVM has its own mmu_lock but it wouldn't be held when
>>> handling the VMM page tables (well, not always, see below).
>>>
>>> gfn_to_pfn_prot() ends up calling get_user_pages*(). At least the slow
>>> path (hva_to_pfn_slow()) ends up with FOLL_TOUCH in gup and the VMM pte
>>> would be set, tags cleared (if PROT_MTE) before the stage 2 pte. I'm not
>>> sure whether get_user_page_fast_only() does the same.
>>>
>>> The race with an mprotect(PROT_MTE) in the VMM is fine I think as the
>>> KVM mmu notifier is invoked before set_pte_at() and racing with another
>>> user_mem_abort() is serialised by the KVM mmu_lock. The subsequent
>>> set_pte_at() would see the PG_mte_tagged set either by the current CPU
>>> or by the one it was racing with.
>>
>> Given the changes to set_pte_at() which means that tags are restored from
>> swap even if !PROT_MTE, the only race I can see remaining is the creation of
>> new PROT_MTE mappings. As you mention an attempt to change mappings in the
>> VMM memory space should involve a mmu notifier call which I think serialises
>> this. So the remaining issue is doing this in a separate address space.
>>
>> So I guess the potential problem is:
>>
>>   * allocate memory MAP_SHARED but !PROT_MTE
>>   * fork()
>>   * VM causes a fault in parent address space
>>   * child does a mprotect(PROT_MTE)
>>
>> With the last two potentially racing. Sadly I can't see a good way of
>> handling that.
> 
> Ah, the mmap lock doesn't help as they are different processes
> (mprotect() acquires it as a writer).
> 
> I wonder whether this is racy even in the absence of KVM. If both parent
> and child do an mprotect(PROT_MTE), one of them may be reading stale
> tags for a brief period.
> 
> Maybe we should revisit whether shared MTE pages are of any use, though
> it's an ABI change (not bad if no-one is relying on this). However...

Shared MTE pages are certainly hard to use correctly (e.g. see the 
discussions with the VMM accessing guest memory). But I guess that boat 
has sailed.

> Thinking about this, we have a similar problem with the PG_dcache_clean
> and two processes doing mprotect(PROT_EXEC). One of them could see the
> flag set and skip the I-cache maintenance while the other executes
> stale instructions. change_pte_range() could acquire the page lock if
> the page is VM_SHARED (my preferred core mm fix). It doesn't immediately
> solve the MTE/KVM case but we could at least take the page lock via
> user_mem_abort().

For PG_dcache_clean AFAICS the solution is actually simple: split the 
test and set parts. i.e..:

  if (!test_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags)) {
	sync_icache_aliases(page_address(page), page_size(page));
	set_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags);
  }

There isn't a problem with repeating the sync_icache_aliases() call in 
the case of a race. Or am I missing something?

> Or maybe we just document this behaviour as racy both for PROT_EXEC and
> PROT_MTE mappings and be done with this. The minor issue with PROT_MTE
> is the potential leaking of tags (it's harder to leak information
> through the I-cache).
> 

This is the real issue I see - the race in PROT_MTE case is either a 
data leak (syncing after setting the bit) or data loss (syncing before 
setting the bit).

But without serialising through a spinlock (in mte_sync_tags()) I 
haven't been able to come up with any way of closing the race. But with 
the change to set_pte_at() to call mte_sync_tags() even if the PTE isn't 
PROT_MTE that is likely to seriously hurt performance.

Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-16 15:43 [PATCH v11 0/6] MTE support for KVM guest Steven Price
2021-04-16 15:43 ` [PATCH v11 1/6] arm64: mte: Sync tags for pages where PTE is untagged Steven Price
2021-04-27 17:43   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-29 16:06     ` Steven Price
2021-05-04 15:29       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-16 15:43 ` [PATCH v11 2/6] arm64: kvm: Introduce MTE VM feature Steven Price
2021-04-28 17:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-29 16:06     ` Steven Price
2021-05-04 17:40       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-06 16:15         ` Steven Price [this message]
2021-05-07 18:25           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-10 18:35             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-12 15:46               ` Steven Price
2021-05-12 17:45                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-13 10:57                   ` Steven Price
2021-05-13 15:08                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-13 15:21                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-16 15:43 ` [PATCH v11 3/6] arm64: kvm: Save/restore MTE registers Steven Price
2021-04-16 15:43 ` [PATCH v11 4/6] arm64: kvm: Expose KVM_ARM_CAP_MTE Steven Price
2021-04-16 15:43 ` [PATCH v11 5/6] KVM: arm64: ioctl to fetch/store tags in a guest Steven Price
2021-04-27 17:58   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-29 16:06     ` Steven Price
2021-05-04 17:44       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-07  9:44         ` Steven Price
2021-05-07  9:59           ` David Laight
2021-04-16 15:43 ` [PATCH v11 6/6] KVM: arm64: Document MTE capability and ioctl Steven Price

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