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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] arm64/fpsimd: Don't disable softirq when touching FPSIMD/SVE state
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:07:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32ba7e1e-37ce-c904-15e4-9c908e873479@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190214103449.GN3567@e103592.cambridge.arm.com>

Hi,

On 14/02/2019 10:34, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 05:52:27PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> On 2019-02-13 16:40:00 [+0100], Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>> This is equal what x86 is currently doing. The naming is slightly
>>>>> different, there is irq_fpu_usable().
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I think it's basically the same idea.
>>>>
>>>> It's been evolving a bit on both sides, but is quite similar now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> may_use_simd() only exists because we have a generic crypto SIMD
>>> helper, and so we needed something arch agnostic to wrap around
>>> irq_fpu_usable()
>>
>> My question was more if this is helpful and we want to keep or if
>> it would be better to remove it and always disable BH as part of SIMD
>> operations.
> 
> Wouldn't this arbitrarily increase softirq latency?  Unconditionally
> forbidding SIMD in softirq might make more sense.  It depends on how
> important the use cases are...

Looking at the commit message from cb84d11e1625 "arm64: neon: Remove support for 
nested or hardirq kernel-mode NEON", one of the use case for crypto in softirq 
is certain mac80211 drivers.

Is there any other use case for use crypto in softirqs?

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-18 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-08 16:55 Julien Grall
2019-02-12 17:13 ` Julia Cartwright
2019-02-18 14:07   ` Julien Grall
2019-02-13 14:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-13 15:36   ` Dave Martin
2019-02-13 15:40     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-02-13 15:42       ` Dave Martin
2019-02-13 16:52       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-14 10:34         ` Dave Martin
2019-02-18 15:07           ` Julien Grall [this message]
2019-03-04 17:25             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-03-14 18:07               ` Julien Grall
2019-03-15 10:06                 ` Dave Martin
2019-03-15 10:22                   ` Julien Grall
2019-02-13 16:50     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-18 14:33   ` Julien Grall
2019-02-18 16:32 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-04 10:52 ` Dave Martin
2019-04-05  9:02   ` Julien Grall
2019-04-05 14:39     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-05 15:17       ` Julien Grall
2019-04-05 15:42         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-11 15:12           ` Julien Grall
2019-04-05 15:07     ` Dave Martin
2019-04-11 15:58       ` Julien Grall
2019-04-11 16:34         ` Dave Martin
2019-04-11 16:50           ` Julien Grall
2019-04-11 14:10   ` Julien Grall
2019-02-08 17:03 [PATCH 0/3] Remove reference of TIF_USEDFPU on arch not using it Julien Grall
2019-02-08 17:03 ` [RFC PATCH] arm64/fpsimd: Don't disable softirq when touching FPSIMD/SVE state Julien Grall

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