From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C45C43387 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341DC2075D for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key) header.d=memeware.net header.i=@memeware.net header.b="N3X3U92X" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727221AbfAAUFs (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2019 15:05:48 -0500 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:33030 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725919AbfAAUFr (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2019 15:05:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1546373145; bh=LokOEpJe2Fvt1IEn+V29ptbStlHjUO/CmaMdwb9mi2k=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=N3X3U92XAZ73cy4+1v4itxF35QqPpCkIgUVDTLCze/0ogvnjv85hu7i4yvcBs2MQP 3gM+JuS2MDyhGgMQEK/AB6f2l9Tl4PCBVFNdn1GUtTHEVHXfec9vqXjdlVdoa7Py/R foInzrGKyt1m3/ACVmE3xLFrmNdhuAOXYD2cr2W1NHQR08SiTxX7cYnG1AXD7B9cWn IBzedLMjvvazgUwnVrkKCLtxfvlJbSsyfzrofqo+XWDJ3uE5T12FwV1WpNhkFGLCFL eJZONNA4UfD3fYwgR3MRsJ9iNhvbfFUuFUMvUHBQ5MIcZ53gHzqGpLEAwYHLhVJkPo /4z8qoqDMQA1w== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:05:44 +0000 From: vnsndalce@memeware.net To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org, legal@lists.fedoraproject.org, users@lists.fedoraproject.org, rms@gnu.org Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, misc@openbsd.org Subject: They claim that your property can be taken from you because to do otherwise would be inconvenient to the people that are committed to committing the taking. Message-ID: <3370f7fb2c5ebfeeb6a54b3a48b867be@memeware.net> X-Sender: vnsndalce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Notice the detractors always simply say "NO u can't do this!" or "No u can't do this because this belongs to this group!". While I explain where your rights come from, their history, and their extent. Detractors say "This is like when Author, after being payed millions, tries to revoke an exclusive license from Publisher and have existing Published Works seized and destroyed!" "AND U CANT DO THAT!" They try to fit the new case of 'Author was paid nothing, signed over nothing, didn't require anything from licensees' to these cases where good consideration was payed for the license, and destruction of physical copies is being sought. I have explained why this case is different. For X to have an interest, it is vital that X secured it. The detractors claim otherwise. They claim that your property can be taken from you because to do otherwise would be inconvenient to the people that are committed to committing the taking.