From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753445AbdKXKxH convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Nov 2017 05:53:07 -0500 Received: from smtp-out4.electric.net ([192.162.216.184]:58737 "EHLO smtp-out4.electric.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753118AbdKXKxF (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Nov 2017 05:53:05 -0500 From: David Laight To: "'Alan Cox'" , Salvatore Mesoraca CC: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "Kernel Hardening" , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" , "Alexander Viro" , Jann Horn , Kees Cook , Solar Designer , "Eric W. Biederman" Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] Protected O_CREAT open in sticky directories Thread-Topic: [PATCH v3 2/2] Protected O_CREAT open in sticky directories Thread-Index: AQHTY7JHoPTLgqi4okeYgYQKKgWbF6MjW80w Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:53:11 +0000 Message-ID: <33dcc007e92349999ce77bf45825be22@AcuMS.aculab.com> References: <1511337706-8297-1-git-send-email-s.mesoraca16@gmail.com> <1511337706-8297-3-git-send-email-s.mesoraca16@gmail.com> <20171122165144.07aea7ac@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: <20171122165144.07aea7ac@alans-desktop> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.202.99.200] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Outbound-IP: 156.67.243.126 X-Env-From: David.Laight@ACULAB.COM X-Proto: esmtps X-Revdns: X-HELO: AcuMS.aculab.com X-TLS: TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256 X-Authenticated_ID: X-PolicySMART: 3396946, 3397078 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Alan Cox > Sent: 22 November 2017 16:52 > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:01:46 +0100 > Salvatore Mesoraca wrote: > > > Disallows O_CREAT open missing the O_EXCL flag, in world or > > group writable directories, even if the file doesn't exist yet. > > With few exceptions (e.g. shared lock files based on flock()) > > Enough exceptions to make it a bad idea. > > Firstly if you care this much *stop* having shared writable directories. > We have namespaces, you don't need them. You can give every user their > own /tmp etc. Looks like a very bad idea to me as well. Doesn't this stop all shell redirects into a shared /tmp ? I'm pretty sure most programs use O_CREAT | O_TRUNC for output files - they'll all stop working. If there are some directories where you need to force O_EXCL you need to make it a property of the directory, not the kernel. David